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04: >> The Joe Rogan Experience.
06: >> Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by
08: night. All day.
13: >> Probably going to play something for
14: you. You've been getting into AI music
16: at all.
17: >> Uh music a little. A little a little.
20: >> Listen to this.
21: >> Yeah.
22: >> They're taking 50 Cent songs.
24: >> I knew you were going to bring that. I
25: heard
25: >> You've heard Many Men, right? Have you
27: heard What Up Gangster?
28: >> No. No. Let me know.
29: >> No, you haven't.
30: >> The Many Men one is fantastic.
31: >> The Many Men's amazing. Hold up. Hold
33: up. Hold up. Before you Hold on. He's
34: not on.
35: >> Oh, my bad. My bad.
36: >> Listen to this. You got to hear this.
38: You got to hear this.
40: [Music]
47: [Applause]
49: [Music]
51: >> Wait till you hear this flow.
53: [Applause]
55: Here
59: [Applause]
03: we go. They say I stroll around like I
06: got a chest. That's a vest. Sitting
10: tight on my chest. I try not to love but
14: I a duck [ __ ] down. Treat it like sport
18: you. You stacking paper. I can't get
20: none with your [ __ ] I'm not the type to
23: get popped for a Daily High. I'm the
25: type to snuff you connect when the coke
27: price climbs high. Gangsters pump my
29: cuts. Yeah, they know me. I grew up
31: around [ __ ] that weren't really
33: homies. I stash it. The Mac I blasted
36: these come through. We dump diesel in
38: the battery casket. This flows home the
41: ice. I flash it. Cross me. I have your
42: mama picking out your casket bastard.
45: I'm on a next tier brightening baguette
47: bezel pedal to the metal. Steam hotter
49: than a tea kettle.
54: Goat
56: [Music]
57: >> goat.
00: >> This is fantastic.
02: >> So good.
03: >> How much of this is like one prompt or
05: is there like a guy working with a
08: >> Jamie's the answer to that cuz Jamie's
09: done a bunch of them?
11: >> Yeah.
11: >> Yeah. Like how much of this is like
13: actually editing and somebody who
15: understands producing music like
17: constantly prompting
18: >> No. Uh uh prompt five words.
22: >> Holy [ __ ]
23: >> Say 1950s soul music.
25: >> It's so easy.
26: >> And then put in the
27: >> You want a cigar?
29: >> Let's Let's burn a cigar. Let's burn one
31: down, man.
34: >> Oh, man. 50.
38: >> 50 is the man.
38: >> Let's be toxic rich dudes.
40: >> Yes. Let's do it.
43: >> What are we starting? Have we started?
45: >> Yeah, we're rolling.
46: >> We're rolling.
46: >> We're rolling.
47: >> Are these your your personal ones? No,
49: these are um from Foundation Cigars.
52: These are uh I don't know what they're
54: called, but these are [ __ ] legit,
58: >> my man.
59: >> What happened to yours?
00: >> I still have those.
01: >> Those are nice.
02: >> Oh, those are great.
03: >> Yeah, we got a nice little box right
04: here.
04: >> I just opened this box the other day.
06: They're nice
08: >> foundation.
11: >> Where are these from?
13: >> Uh probably Nicaragua. I think that's
14: where he's got his thing. Hey,
17: >> I got you. I don't know.
19: >> What's the rules on that?
21: >> About Nicaragua.
24: >> RFK. Yeah.
28: >> It's like a man taking you shopping.
31: [Laughter]
34: >> You hear 50 say that
37: >> why you want to take me shopping for?
39: >> And then he looked at Meek Mills post
40: and they were wearing the same shirt.
41: And as Diddy and Meek were wearing the
43: same shirt, he's like, "See, that's why
44: I don't let him take me shopping.
48: 50 is so funny.
49: >> But you realize how good his lyrics are
51: when you hear Run Through AI. Like you
53: revisit the lyrics like the Many Men
55: lyrics are fantastic.
57: >> Yeah. The Many Men song, it almost works
59: better,
00: >> right?
00: >> It's like a what was that like 50s
02: >> soul
03: >> soul? Yeah.
04: >> Yeah. Well, if that dude was a real
06: dude, he would be the biggest [ __ ]
07: artist on earth right now. If that was
10: his song, if it wasn't written by 50, it
13: was his song and he put it out right
16: now, everybody be like, "Oh my god, who
18: the [ __ ] is this guy?" You just picture
20: him looking like
22: >> just perfect like Cat Williams type suit
25: on stage, you know, just going off
28: sweating,
29: >> wiping his head with a towel, full
32: blast.
32: >> Yeah, just like Southern Deacon.
34: >> [ __ ] 9,000 RPMs.
37: What up, blood?
41: >> I just love the idea of like you working
43: out to 50 soul, 50 Cent.
46: >> Oh, I do.
47: >> Yeah,
47: >> I do all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Working
49: in there with Wuang.
50: >> With Wuang.
51: >> Wuang is my favorite workout music.
53: Yeah. Big Daddy Kane. Yeah.
54: >> You like Kim?
56: >> Yeah.
56: >> Yeah. Coogi rap.
57: >> Have you ever talked to uh do you ever
59: listen to uh EPMD?
01: >> Oh, [ __ ] yeah.
02: >> You ever talked to like Eric Surman?
03: >> No, never have. No, never have.
05: >> Yeah.
05: >> I love those guys. I can't believe you
07: and 50 have never connected.
08: >> Like I know every
09: >> I met him once. I interviewed him uh for
11: UFC
12: >> long time ago.
13: >> Where?
13: >> Um I don't remember. Might have been
16: Vegas. It was a UFC event in Vegas and
18: he was there. I don't know if he was
19: releasing something or whatever it was.
21: I sat next to him and
22: >> that [ __ ] is harsh.
23: >> It's good, right?
24: >> That's a good one. But that's a strong
25: one.
25: >> It's a Maduro.
27: >> Yeah. Yeah.
27: >> I like them robust.
29: >> I bet. Yeah.
31: >> I'm glad I lit my own.
34: >> Okay. Wait. So, wait. You met him. You
36: were at the UFC fight and you spoke to
37: him.
37: >> It was a UFC event.
39: >> This is how long ago?
40: >> Oh, a long time ago, man. I had hair, so
42: it got to be pre 2000. There it is right
44: there.
45: >> Oh, so this is like when he's in the
47: middle of his stuff with
49: >> Oh, I mean, I got to say this is
52: probably 2007 or something like that.
56: >> But he was always involved with
57: something. He was always beefing with
59: somebody. Yeah, that was the funniest
00: thing cuz when I when we were in uh he's
02: in that Street Fighter movie, so when we
04: were in Australia filming, like I saw
05: the guys with him and like I recognized
07: like a couple like it was a security,
08: but they didn't look like
09: >> like one guy looked like actual
11: professional security and I was like I
13: was like, "Oh, that's that's that guy
15: looks like that's his real job being
16: security, not what I'm used to seeing 50
18: with,
19: >> right?"
19: >> And uh he goes, "Yeah, man. Can't get in
22: the country with felonies, bro. I had to
24: bring the clean ones."
26: So, so like the real people that he has
29: around
30: >> Wow. You got to bring clean security.
32: >> Clean security. Professionals.
35: >> There's different levels of
36: professionals.
37: >> Yeah. Well, there's people that know
38: things.
40: >> Yeah.
41: >> Sometimes you go to like a city or state
43: and you need to know those things.
44: >> You need to know things. Some people
46: need to know things. Sometimes you got
47: to check in with folks. So, that's the
49: thing.
50: >> Your guys are the best at it. Your guys
52: hit me up just like, "Yeah, there's some
53: crazy chick online. She says she wants
55: to kill you. So, just don't go to New
56: Mexico. And I was like, "All right, bet.
59: I won't do that." They're like, they're
01: like, she said she wanted to kill
02: somebody else. I won't even say their
04: names. I don't want to get him any heat,
05: but like, yeah, as long as you don't go
06: to New Mexico, you should be good. I'm
07: like, "All right, no plans."
08: >> Allegedly.
09: >> Yeah.
10: >> Yeah. It's wild times.
13: >> Wild times.
15: >> Mhm.
15: >> Wild times where people celebrate people
17: getting killed now. Like that never
19: happened before.
20: >> Like even when someone bad got killed
21: before, you're like, "Oh, wow. That's
23: crazy." I've been thinking a lot about
25: this.
26: >> Yeah.
26: >> And I think that like I don't think we
29: all exist in the same reality anymore.
31: Not on some multiverse [ __ ] but like
32: just like how
34: >> how we see the world.
35: >> Yes.
35: >> Yes.
35: >> And it's like especially with Charlie's
37: death because I was in Australia when it
39: happened. So like I had time like I
41: wasn't doing pods. I wasn't doing stand
42: up. I'm just like sitting around in a
44: trailer all day this movie. So I like
45: started watching like a bunch of his
47: stuff. Also I want to say he did
49: something really cool. Like I didn't
50: really know him, but like you DM'd a
52: couple times, but he saw a headline
54: about me once and he DM'd me and like I
56: don't even have a relationship with this
57: guy. He goes, "This headline looks a
59: little weird. Like I know we don't
00: really know each other, but like is this
01: what you meant?"
04: >> And like there are people who I know
06: I've considered colleagues that haven't
08: even afforded that to me.
10: >> They just ran with a headline and like
12: made a video, got clicks, views, or
13: whatever like that. This guy I don't
15: even know hits me up and goes, "Is this
17: what you meant?"
18: >> Yeah.
18: >> Very cool. I met him once at a gun
20: range.
21: >> Oh, really?
22: >> Yeah. I met him at Taran Tactical. So, I
24: was down there training. You know, do
26: you know what Taran
27: >> This is the one where you see like a lot
29: of like celebs.
30: >> The one where you see celebs. He trained
33: Kiano Reeves for John Wick.
35: >> He's the man. Like Taran Butler is like
37: a multiple time world champion shooter
40: of those, you know, the events that they
42: have where it's timed. Shooter ready.
45: >> Yeah.
46: >> Um, so I met him there. seemed like a
48: real nice guy. You know, I didn't know
50: anything about him back then. I didn't
52: know much about his beliefs and views
55: that were controversial until after he
58: got killed. And then people started
59: sending me stuff and I was like, "Okay,
01: >> what's the context of this?" Yeah, he
04: shouldn't have said it that way. There
05: there was some ones that we've talked
07: about before. Um, one specifically,
10: >> you know, but it look the [ __ ] guy,
12: first of all, was 31 years old.
14: >> Yeah.
14: >> All right. When I was 31, thank God
17: there wasn't like Twitter or especially
21: when I was 21. Oh my god. Thank god.
24: Thank god, you know, judging like that.
26: That's like that Nick Fuentes kid. He's
28: like 26. Like, thank God.
31: >> It didn't exist when I was [ __ ] 21.
34: >> I was a [ __ ] [ __ ] I was a complete
38: [ __ ] like most people, especially if
40: you grow up around morons. But um I
43: think he he said a few things that if I
46: was his friend I would say don't say it
47: like that. I know what you're trying to
49: say.
50: >> But don't ever say when I go into a
52: cockpit I hope that the pilot if he's
54: black is qualified.
56: >> I know what you're trying to say. You
57: shouldn't hire underqualified pilots.
00: >> Yeah.
00: >> But saying it like that.
02: >> He's probably not hanging out with black
03: people and not knowing how offensive
05: that's going to be for them. How you got
07: to go that's not what I meant. Like you
08: got to you got to that's not what I
10: meant before you say it. Yeah,
12: >> you got to run it through the filter.
13: Like, what am I trying to say?
15: >> Yeah,
15: >> we all don't want unqualified people to
18: do dangerous [ __ ] jobs, period. It
20: doesn't matter what race they are. If
22: all of a sudden white people became a
23: minority and they had to start hiring
25: dopey whites,
26: >> be upset. He makes that argument a lot.
28: Like, he makes it with sports,
30: >> you know, he's like, "All right, if the
31: NFL is going to be 50% black and you
33: know, like so, but again, like the
35: contest cuz it's taken out."
36: >> Yes. And I think that's what happened.
38: Like the the algorithm flattens all of
40: us into a two-dimensional person. And
42: like
43: >> only the views that tap into, you know,
46: your biggest insecurities, your biggest
48: fears, not the views, only like the the
49: the lines we say or the videos,
51: whatever, that tap into those things
52: >> or what terrible things you want
53: confirmed.
54: >> Exactly. Exactly. The things you want
55: confirmed. Like that's what the
56: algorithm does. And like I realized that
59: when I was doing like a promo tour for
00: for life, my last special, right? I
03: would go on a couple pods that like
07: and like maybe like 10, 15, 20 minutes
10: into the conversation, they I would
12: realize like, "Oh, wow. They have a very
15: different view of me than me."
18: >> The New York Times one?
19: >> No. Well, the New York Times one, I was
21: like expecting it for sure. But even
22: when I went on Dax's podcast, Dax knew
24: me, but his uh his co-host, I was like,
27: "Oh, she has an idea of me that's like
30: cultivated by the internet and
32: headlines. Exactly. And it's just a
34: flattened version,
35: >> right? It's like there's really no
37: humanity in it. It's just these are the
38: things that
40: >> people are saying that I'm saying with
41: no context and then you just create an
43: archetype. And like
44: >> I think in a lot of ways that's the
46: Charlie thing to the furthest extreme,
49: right? It's just like
50: >> if you're on the right there's one
51: version of Charlie. If you're on the
53: left there's another version of Charlie,
54: >> right? And
56: when he died, this person that you saw
59: as like a good god-fearing man, you're
02: like heartbroken by it. And then on the
04: left, this person you saw that was like
06: bigoted or hateful, you're like, "Okay,
08: I'm not really heartbroken by it." Some
09: people are even crazy enough to be like
11: he deserved it or this is what you get,
13: right?
13: >> But they can only have that feeling if
15: he's completely dehumanized the version
17: of him that they see all the time.
19: >> That happens to you. It happens to me.
21: It happens to like anybody who's on the
22: internet talking, you know, for a few
24: hours a week.
25: >> And when I saw that [ __ ] and especially
28: I saw like that this visceral reaction
30: to Charlie,
31: >> that's what sews the sews the insanity
33: in the country because the people on the
35: left are seeing the people on the right
36: be heartbroken, but they're like, "Why
38: are you heartbroken over this guy who's
39: a bigot?" And the people on the right
41: are seeing the people on the left
42: celebrating. They're like, "Why are you
43: celebrating the death of this
44: god-fearing family man?" And both sides
47: just think each other is absolutely
48: insane.
49: >> Yeah. when in reality he's neither of
52: those cartoons.
53: >> Right.
54: >> Right.
54: >> Yeah.
55: >> So I was just the life thing when I was
58: talking to those people I was like you
59: know 20 or 30 minutes in the
01: conversation be like oh wow like yeah
02: you're not kind of who I thought you
04: were
05: >> right.
05: >> I'm like yeah cuz you let people
08: you let people tell you who I was in 30
10: second clips. You
12: >> it's not like I have four hours of
13: podcasting every single week that you
14: can indulge in to figure it out.
16: >> What do they try to label you as? Like
18: what is the what's the angle they take
20: on you? Is it your part manosphere? Oh,
23: you're heterosexual. That's
24: >> I hate it.
25: >> Heterosexual is a real problem in this
27: day and age.
28: >> Yeah. No, no, it's Yeah. I think that
30: like
30: >> manosphere.
31: >> I think there's like verse like
34: manosphere like and I think that this is
36: kind of a new iteration postelection.
38: So, I think what a lot of people are are
40: struggling with the fact is they're
42: trying to like find a way that the
44: Democrats lost the election without
46: taking any accountability for like what
49: they were doing,
50: >> right?
50: >> So, it's like, oh, cuz he went on Rogan
52: and Schultz and Theo's podcast.
54: >> That's the reason why he won. It's like,
56: no, they they kind of ran a dead guy
57: that was very unpopular and then they
59: ran a woman that can't really talk that
01: well in front of the camera.
02: >> An open border for four years that
04: freaked everybody out.
05: >> Sure. Sure. But like out like in New
06: York, people aren't really worried about
07: the open border.
08: >> Oh, they were. You don't think they
10: were? I talked to a lot of people in New
11: York that were upset about the migrants
13: that had been shipped there that they
15: were putting it up in the Roosevelt
16: Hotel.
18: >> The mining crisis for sure like New York
19: I think like affected people. I'm not
21: saying it didn't, but like I don't think
23: that they attach it to the border. I
25: think they're more just like well just
27: don't send them here, you know? You know
30: what I mean? Like just keep them down
32: there or whatever. Like you guys chose
33: to live near the border. Remember when
35: they sent them to Martha's Vineyard?
37: >> Oh yeah, they
37: >> they sent him to Martha's Vineyard like
39: get get the [ __ ] out of here. They moved
42: about so quick. Martha's Vineyard is all
45: liberals, bro. It's all super rich
50: Mercedes driving limo.
51: >> It's the nimism. What is it called? Not
53: in my backyard.
54: >> Exactly.
55: >> Right. That's like the And there's a you
56: know Ezra Klein. You know Ezra. Yeah.
58: And like Ezra did a great piece on it.
59: It's so funny cuz like he's trying to be
01: reasonable right now. He's like trying
02: to
02: >> I know they're calling him a
03: right-winger.
04: >> And and I keep and I keep hitting him up
06: and I'm like, "Bro, you're doing the
07: right thing when when there are groups
10: that like hate you because you're
11: actually trying to like win an election.
12: You're trying to be reasonable." He had
14: this whole thing about like, "Hey, the
16: reason why they can build a lot of
18: buildings in Texas and why we can't in
20: Los Angeles is because there are
21: restrictive laws." And people are like,
23: "This guy's an animal." And I was just
27: like like, "All right, buddy. I don't
28: know what to do." So, I understand that
29: frustration.
31: >> [ __ ] I've felt it a million different
33: times. Like you try to be nuanced and
34: reasonable.
35: >> There's really no place on the internet
38: for it because why would the algorithm
41: reward anything nuanced and reasonable?
43: That's not entertaining.
44: >> I want to see Nick Fuentes talk [ __ ]
47: right?
47: >> Do you know what I mean? I don't want to
48: see like a thoughtful take from some
50: like TV host.
51: >> You want Sam Hyde.
52: >> I get wild Sam. You know what I mean?
54: Like I Now, does it mean that I agree
57: with these things? No.
58: >> No. But the algorithm doesn't know what
00: you agree with or not. They just know
02: what you click on, share.
03: >> It's part of the fun of the internet in
06: general is that it's not regulated. So
09: when wild people break through and
11: everybody goes,
12: >> bro, what did what was the first thing
14: we did with Sora? You got MLK giving a
16: speech and a Down Syndrome kid walks up
18: and goes peanut butter.
19: >> Right. Right. Well, how about those
21: videos where they had like Trump playing
22: in a band and like there was a like
25: Clinton was on the saxophone. Did you
26: ever see those?
27: >> No.
27: >> Oh my god. But like we're going to make
30: Credence Clearwater revival together.
32: >> I mean, I still like when the Down
34: Syndrome kid comes up and it just says
36: Peter Buck.
37: >> It's guiltfree because he's not a real
38: person,
38: >> right?
39: >> He's made up. Right. You can laugh at
41: him.
42: >> We can laugh cuz it's not a real person,
43: >> right?
44: >> But uh
44: >> but that brings to like what about AI
47: Down Syndrome porn?
49: >> The sounds would be crazy.
51: >> I mean, we got to see it just for the
53: sounds, right? It's just just
55: >> Did they just announce that? Was is Open
58: AI doing an erotica version?
01: >> Peanut butter.
04: >> No. Yeah. They said they wouldn't censor
05: it. They're like, "It's not our job to
06: be the moral police."
07: >> Oh, well then it's over. Then it's
09: Andrew Schultz porn all day long.
10: >> So that's So that's the crazy. Can they
12: do Hey, bro.
14: >> You handsome devil.
15: >> Hey, the mustache.
17: >> Isn't it it's Isn't moral police of the
19: world after erotica chat GPT post blows
22: up.
22: >> So that's the thing. Can you do it? Can
24: you make porn with us or can you just
26: make it with like random?
27: >> 100% can with you.
29: >> With What about you? We can't make porn
30: with you.
31: >> Me, too.
32: >> I just want you to feel it.
35: >> You hit me with the Spider-Man meme.
38: We make with you. Do it.
40: >> Get them. Well, it's going to be a real
42: problem with female celebrities, and it
44: already has been a problem. They face
45: swapped Natalie Portman onto porn stars
47: bodies.
48: >> Remember they were doing when we were
49: kids with Photoshop? The second
50: Photoshop came out.
51: >> Yep. Yep. Yep. There was like tons of
53: porn. Who's the lady that ran for
54: president from Alaska?
55: >> Oh, Sarah Palin.
56: >> Yeah, Sarah Palin was like every single
58: porn video.
59: >> So, yeah. Why would they not do it?
01: >> They're doing it 100%. The real thing,
04: >> we won't be upset as long as like we're
06: we're throwing it down.
08: >> Like, we'll be upset if like our wives
10: are in it,
10: >> right? That'll be an issue.
11: >> But if somebody makes a porn where I got
12: like a huge [ __ ] and I'm just [ __ ]
14: [ __ ] up.
15: >> But the problem is it's going to be your
16: wife getting teamed on. It won't even be
19: like fun. Why Why are we putting these
21: things out there in the world? Why Why
23: you keep giving them ideas? The internet
25: is a dangerous place and it always ends
28: up with me getting [ __ ]
29: >> Uh yeah, the world's dark right now with
32: this because there's no rules and people
34: are just It's sort of like if you gave
36: the world matches for the first time and
38: they're like, I could just start a fire.
41: >> Do you think they did that initially
42: when they create a fire? They're like,
43: we need some rules for this [ __ ] We
45: just can't let everybody
46: >> for sure should. I mean, I thought about
49: that before. Was that like the original
50: gun?
51: >> How weird is it that I don't even have
52: to have a license to have one of the
53: most powerful forces in the world at the
56: palm of my hand? And I could be six.
57: >> Okay,
58: >> imagine after the Chicago fire, right?
01: Like 80% of the city is decimated. I
03: don't even know what year that is.
04: Probably 1800s or something like that.
05: >> Did they say, "hm, maybe we got to take
07: matches away from these motherfuckers."
09: >> Or like fireplaces or some [ __ ] Like I
11: bet they didn't let you build a house
12: out of wood anymore.
15: >> Made out of wood. Yeah, but we need
17: concrete or something like we need
19: >> why they did that.
20: >> Why' they do it?
21: >> Probably for structural rigidity and um
24: like from the cold. It's better if you
28: have like I would I would imagine
30: there's a bunch of reasons to make
32: something out of brick. It's more it's
34: harder to get into.
35: >> Well, I imagine you won't light on fire.
37: Concrete is
38: >> Yeah. They I mean they're making By the
40: way, they probably should have did this
41: a long time ago, but they're they're
42: making fireproof houses now in like
44: Malibu and places like that. Rich
46: people.
47: >> Yeah. I
48: >> You would imagine like if you're living
49: in a place that like once the fire hits,
52: no one's stopping [ __ ]
54: >> So,
55: >> you know, they just busted somebody for
56: that.
57: >> I know. I saw that. Like the person who
58: started the fire. It wasn't in
00: Palisades. It was like the one that
01: connected to it or something like that.
03: >> Something like that. But this dude was
05: like really into fires. like he he had a
08: bunch of chat GPT prompts about fires
10: and
10: >> that's an interesting autism right
12: there.
12: >> That's a weird one, man.
13: >> You could have had trains or dinosaurs,
15: but
16: >> he got fires.
17: >> He got fires, bro.
18: >> There was one guy where they arrested he
20: had a fake fire truck and he was after
24: fire. He was a convicted arsonist.
26: >> How much Tylenol your mom take? Did you
28: end up wanting a a fake fire truck?
30: >> He bought a fire truck.
31: >> So, a real fire truck.
32: >> Yeah, he bought a fire truck, painted
34: the logo on it, whatever. and then drove
37: it to the palisades where the fires were
39: like
40: >> started the fires but nobody suspected
42: >> they don't know if he started fires.
43: They don't know. Yeah, but they do know
45: that this arsonist was at the fires with
48: a fire truck
50: >> and they're like you're not a fireman,
52: dude.
52: >> In fact, you're the opposite of a fire.
54: >> I think that's why it's kind of it's
56: it's like a brilliant disguise.
58: >> Yeah. Well, in the middle of the chaos,
00: you know, Huberman filmed a bunch of
02: guys lighting fires. He said it was
04: nuts. He said there was like teams of
07: people running around starting fires
10: while the fires were going on.
11: >> Yeah.
11: >> He said he watched people do it. People
13: were screaming at him and honking their
14: horn. They arrested people that were
16: doing it. So once chaos break, it's like
19: they did a study
21: >> a while back where they parked a car on
24: the campus of Stanford and they parked a
27: car I think it was in the Bronx. The car
31: in the Bronx got stripped immediately.
34: They they had families coming and taking
36: the battery and like openly because they
39: had cameras on it.
40: >> Yeah.
40: >> The the car in Stanford didn't get
42: [ __ ] with at all. They left it alone
45: until someone broke. They said, "Let's
47: just mix this up and break one of the
49: windows." Smashed the window and then
52: within a day it was like stripped apart.
54: >> Yeah. the guy that was going in, they
57: caught him at a checkpoint, but I think
58: they're looting that he was probably
00: going to go try to rob the houses. There
03: was a bunch of tools that they say were
05: used in burgers.
06: >> Interesting. Well, he's probably trying
07: to do that, too. I mean, he's a piece of
09: [ __ ] But wasn't he already um an
12: arsonist before this?
13: >> Yes. Yes.
14: >> Yeah. He's just an allaround piece of
16: [ __ ] It's not like, "Hey, I'm an
18: arsonist, but I'm not a [ __ ] thief."
20: >> Yeah.
20: >> I would steal jewelry. Come on. Yeah.
23: >> I saw people just running out of
25: people's houses with TVs like people
27: were filming it from the street.
29: >> Yeah.
29: >> Just breaking in, kicking the door in,
32: just running in teams of people with
33: masks on.
34: >> Yeah.
35: >> Yeah. Robbing somebody's personal home
37: feels different. I mean, it's [ __ ] up
39: to just break into a Kmart or any of
40: those things. Like, but you see how like
44: you could get caught up in like um I
46: don't I don't want to call it the
47: excitement, but like you know, you're a
48: little [ __ ] kid and something's going
50: down. You're like, "All right, let's get
51: after it." Yeah.
52: >> Like bringing to somebody's home is a
53: little
53: >> It's horrible.
54: >> Yeah.
55: >> It's evil.
55: >> Yeah. Cuz there's like a person behind
57: it. Whereas like Kmart is like this
58: corporation.
59: >> Also, they're always going to know you
00: were in their home.
02: >> Like for the rest of their life. They
04: live with that.
04: >> Well, as long as they're back in that
06: house, they're going to know that when
07: the fires broke out, you kicked in their
09: front door and ransacked their house.
11: And now they're sitting in it. If the
13: house didn't burn down, now they're
14: sitting in the house. The house probably
15: burned down.
16: >> Yeah. which is I guess their logic is
19: like get in there now otherwise there's
20: going to be a puddle of [ __ ] on the
22: ground instead of a Rolex. Let's go get
24: it.
25: >> You know.
25: >> Yeah. It's crazy how like the fires
28: weren't even that long ago.
30: >> I know it wasn't that long ago and they
32: but they haven't even touched a house.
34: Adam Corolla just did a video about it.
35: >> What did he say?
36: >> He first of all he called it Corolla
38: called it a long time ago cuz Corolla
39: has been involved in construction his
41: whole life. So he knows how hard it is
43: to get permits to build in the palace.
45: It's like no one is going to rebuild.
48: >> This is
48: >> But they haven't even touched it.
50: >> Yeah, but I think they just said that
51: they're going to start like stripping
52: back some of that legislation.
54: >> Exactly. They're going to start putting
56: low-income housing up there.
57: >> This is what happened with I think it
59: was in like I think it was in
00: Philadelphia, right? I think it was
02: there was like a bridge that collapsed.
04: You remember this? Was this in Philly,
06: Pennsylvania? And I think the governor
08: was like, "Okay, we have to rebuild this
11: because obviously there's going to be
12: like huge traffic situations. Like we
13: just we need this thing. this is just
15: how humans are going to kind of get
17: around. And uh so they stripped all
19: legislation and they were able to put it
21: up in a matter of weeks if I'm not
22: mistaken. Jamie, you know what I'm
24: talking about.
24: >> Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
26: I remember that story. I remember
27: something.
28: >> How long would this take if we didn't
29: strip all the legislation? They're like
31: uh 16 to 18 months. So you did in 3
34: weeks compared to 16 18 months.
37: >> I think this is where people get like
38: frustrated with all the the the
41: bureaucracy and the red tape. Now, I
43: also believe in some red tape. Like, I
46: live in New York City. There's somebody
47: renovating above us right now. I got a
50: kid, you know what I mean? So, it's like
52: I would like a little red tape to make
53: sure they're just not hammering 24 hours
55: a day, right?
56: >> We live on top of each other. You live
58: in Texas. There's probably You don't
00: even see your neighbor. You could have a
02: little less red tape,
03: >> right?
04: >> But then we get to a point in New York
05: where it's like, okay, is it impossible
06: to renovate ever? Maybe that's too much.
09: But there needs to be some in different
10: situations.
11: >> 100%. I completely agree. I got in a
14: conversation about that a long time ago
15: with Dave Rubin where we were talking
18: about uh regulations for construction
20: sites that you don't you don't need
22: inspectors and I was like, "Oh my god."
24: >> Yeah. That's the
25: >> Bro, they'll put they'll put the cancer
27: in the kids cereal.
28: >> Yeah. They don't give a [ __ ]
29: >> Like if you don't regulate the food,
32: they'll put anything in it.
33: >> Well, that's
34: >> so you need to have somebody looking
35: after
36: >> it's in it right now. This is this RFK
37: Junior [ __ ] where they're turning him
39: into a quack and these companies going
41: to go under if they have to follow these
42: regulations. They're following them
44: already in Canada.
45: >> Exactly. It's like
46: >> same factory,
48: >> same Froot Loops.
49: >> And now we got to feel bad for Kelloggs,
51: >> right? We're like, "Oh my god, they're
52: not going to make it. Poor Kelloggs."
54: >> Didn't um Newsome just veto a bill that
58: would stop forever chemicals? There was
00: a bill that would stop forever chemicals
02: being used on I think cooking utensils.
05: Like there's certain like non-stick
07: cookware that has forever chemicals on
09: it. If you're scraping it with like a
11: metal spatula, it'll probably get in
12: your diet.
12: >> Yeah.
13: >> Not good. I think he they were banning
15: it. So, and I think he vetoed it. Yeah.
17: He vetoed a California bill banning
19: cookware with PFAS's forever chemicals.
23: Says the bill would cause sudden product
25: shift sparking debate among chefs,
28: lawmakers, and environmentalists. No.
30: No. The bill stops poison, bro. The bill
32: stops poison for going into human
34: bodies.
35: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
36: >> You prophet monster.
37: >> Yeah. Did you you [ __ ] prophet
39: monster.
40: >> Did you Did you see there's a there's a
43: guy named Van Van Leon was asking him
45: about Apac. Did you see this? He just
47: says something
48: >> interesting.
49: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just interesting. I
51: mean it's not something I
53: >> I don't think about it.
54: >> I don't It's just
56: >> interesting. It's interesting. I'm
58: interested. [ __ ]
59: >> I'm interested.
00: >> I'm interested. Now I'm interested. Now
02: I'm interested.
04: >> Yeah. What is he coming on?
06: >> He's talking some [ __ ] on Twitter.
08: >> I know. It's like you think that's going
10: to work. Like that's so stupid. Like
12: this is such a bad look.
14: >> It's such a bad choice.
16: >> There's a little desperation in it.
17: >> But it's just stupid. It's like this is
19: a bad strategy. Like I probably would
21: have had him on. Yeah.
22: >> But now I'm like no. What are you doing?
24: >> There is a fun version where you just do
26: it and cook them.
28: >> You know,
28: >> he'll cook himself.
29: >> I mean that's
31: All you have to do is just ask them
32: questions.
33: >> It's like, why are people leaving?
34: >> Well, why do you say this thing all the
36: time where you rattle off all the good
38: things about California? When anybody
39: says something bad about California,
41: it's like number one in Fortune 500
42: companies, number one in higher
44: education, number one,
46: >> it was all that [ __ ] before you were
47: there. It was all that [ __ ] forever.
50: It's cuz the weather's perfect, man. It
51: has nothing to do with you.
52: >> California is an unbelievable state.
54: This is just what we have to call it's
56: like the
56: >> mountains and the oceans 2 hours apart.
58: >> It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's nuts.
01: >> It's It's probably in terms of like one
04: place if you had to live in one state
06: for the rest of your life,
08: >> one state for the rest of your life. You
09: could never move and that was the only
11: place you could live.
12: >> It's Cal, it's California. It's like not
14: even a question. It's a If you want
16: snow, you can have snow. If you want to
17: be in San Diego and the beach all day,
19: you have the San Diego the beach. You
20: could surf, you could snow, but you
21: could do whatever the [ __ ] you want. You
22: want to be a farmer. all kinds of parts
24: of San Francisco, all kinds of parts of
26: Oakland, all kinds of parts of, you
28: know, the San Fernando Valley. It's all
30: so different. It's like there's so many
33: different ways you can live in
34: California,
35: >> but they're [ __ ] problems and people
36: are leaving. Like, if people are leaving
39: the place you're in charge of, don't be
41: upset if people are critical of how
43: you've been managing it. Yeah.
45: >> Like Hollywood,
47: >> I I've been talking to like people who
48: are making films, like the producers of
50: films, not like the actors, right? like
52: the actual people are putting the money
53: up to make films, right? Because they'll
55: give you the real, right?
56: >> Like we're filming in Australia. I'm
58: like, "Guys, why the [ __ ] are we filming
59: in Australia?" Like, "Australia is nice,
00: but
01: >> why the [ __ ] are we here?" And they're
03: like, "You can't make a movie in
04: Hollywood." I go, "What do you mean you
05: can't make?" He They go, "You cannot." I
07: go, "Where was Hollywood on the list of
09: places we could film?" I give me the
12: number. And he they're like, "Not even
13: top 10."
15: >> Wow.
15: >> Not even top 10.
17: >> Wow.
18: >> It's It was Australia. you get 60% off
20: in taxes or something like that.
22: >> 60
23: >> 60 we're talking about if you're making
25: like a $10 million romcom that's one
26: thing. If you're making a $100 million
29: $200 million film, 60% off in taxes.
33: >> Yeah.
33: >> So, something's happening in LA and it's
36: [ __ ] up because I look at LA kind of
38: like a college football town, but
39: college football is the film industry.
43: >> And it's like if you don't nurture that,
44: I'm not worried about the actors. It's
47: like there's a guys who do the lighting,
49: they do transpo. These are guys who like
52: they're like working class guys. They
53: make good money, don't get me wrong, but
54: like that goes away. The crew that came
57: out to film, like a lot of the crew that
58: came out to film in Australia was from
00: LA.
01: >> And a lot of them have moved to LA that
02: moved to like San Diego. Like my boy
03: Nick was ad he's like, "Yeah, there's
05: just no work in LA right now. So we'll
07: travel for the job and then I just live
09: the rest of my time in San Diego."
11: That's a problem. Netflix just built
13: this like billion dollar [ __ ] studio
15: in Jersey. Did you see this?
16: >> No. So, like they're going to start
17: taking production over there. I'm just
20: saying like you have the industry that
22: everybody knows Los Angeles for. What
25: other thing do we know LA for?
26: >> That's it. It's being famous. Music,
29: movies.
31: Yeah. It's all LA. That's all LA is.
33: >> I don't even know what music is coming
34: out of there anymore. Like when we were
36: kids, you think about like what those
37: those iconic like rock and roll venues,
40: >> right? Well, it's also a town of lost
42: children, right? Like the one of the
45: problems with LA is like if you wanted
47: to talk about a town that doesn't have
49: like an emotional base that's healthy.
53: Like the the main motivation of a a good
57: percentage of the people that came out
58: there is to just to get attention to
00: make up for a shitty childhood.
02: >> Like that's the main the the main
06: population.
07: >> LA is is attention to make up for a
09: shitty childhood. New York is money to
12: make up for a shitty childhood. Yes.
14: >> That's really what it is.
15: >> Yes.
16: >> It's like New York is the hedge funds of
19: the banks cuz it's like, okay, my dad
20: wasn't around, my mom hated me, but I'm
22: going to make a billion dollars. And
23: that
24: >> my mom was on pills and barely there.
26: And you know,
28: >> I've developed enough sociopathy where I
31: can be this [ __ ] hedge fun guy that's
32: going to take over the world. That's
34: what they believe. And then LA is the
36: same thing, but it's just pats in the
37: back. I want people to love me.
38: >> Yeah. It's both two different versions
40: of American Psycho.
41: >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to wonder like
43: which one is worth like
45: >> New York is uh better because at least
48: they have more information. They have
49: more things they can talk to you about.
51: >> What I say Yeah. What I always say about
53: New York is like uh we still we still
56: appreciate greatness even if you're not
58: even if you're not wealthy. So like the
00: best skateboarder is really cool in New
02: York.
03: >> Yeah.
03: >> The best street artist is really cool.
05: Like
05: >> Right. Right. Right.
06: >> Whereas I think LA because it's built
08: around the entertainment industry is
09: like whatever's hot. You could have a
12: dog [ __ ] movie, but if it's the biggest
14: movie, you're the guy.
15: >> Yeah.
16: >> And because there is that dependence on
17: like star power over there
19: >> where I think is New York is like the
21: kind of dependence is the banks.
22: >> Like the industry doesn't rely. So like
24: we get to masquerade as like really
27: enjoying artists,
28: >> right? Like you could be a bad
29: [ __ ] and be playing in like
31: subway tunnels
32: >> and people like, "Oh, this guy is the
34: >> And some guys do like make it out of
37: there like that." Like Charlie Crockett
39: >> Busking, I believe it's called. Well,
40: yeah. Charlie Crockett used to just pull
42: up and and start playing. You don't know
44: who Charlie Crockett is?
45: >> Do they do a 50s version of his music?
47: >> No. No. No. That's the only way I know.
49: >> No, he's he does like a 50s version of
51: his music. He's like a a country guy who
54: was a street kid.
55: >> Oh,
56: >> yeah. Man,
58: he's a bad [ __ ]
00: He's really good, man. He's got a voice
03: where you're like, "Oh, this guy's seen
05: some shit."
06: >> Oh, really?
06: >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I got you. Yeah. his
09: So he used to
10: >> This is fire.
10: >> He would sing on [ __ ] subway cars. He
14: would sing, you know, in the tunnels.
16: >> Yeah.
16: >> He would do his [ __ ] on street corners.
19: He was like homeless for a long time and
21: now he's killing it.
22: >> Yeah.
23: >> Very very interesting guy. But that's
25: New York, right? He was in New York
27: doing country music outside.
29: >> Yeah.
30: >> You can do some stuff like that in New
31: York and people are like, "Look at this
32: bad motherfucker." You do it in LA,
35: they're like, "You [ __ ] loser. You're
36: never going to be Bruce Springsteen."
37: They whatever it is,
38: >> they don't care about the best pool
40: player in LA.
42: >> No,
43: >> but New York, there's like a little
44: bubble that you could exist in where
46: you're like the king of the [ __ ]
48: cash.
48: >> True. LA has no pool halls.
50: >> And it's just like another version. It's
52: like everything is geared around
54: entertainment. And I get it. That's it.
55: It's like if you're the coach of the
56: football team in Ohio State, like you're
58: the guy.
59: >> Yeah. But I think it's kind of cool in
01: New York that you have these little
03: bubbles where, you know, people really
05: value this niche thing that you do.
07: >> Well, New York has strong communities of
10: bubbles, right? Like the pool thing is a
12: good example because LA at one time had
15: Hollywood billiards, which was a 24-hour
17: pool hall that was filled with hustlers.
19: It was like a notorious place. Like if
21: you were a New York pool player and you
23: were coming to LA, you went to Hollywood
26: and you you went downstairs and there
28: was all these like you could get a game
30: and you can get a game with some [ __ ]
31: killers.
32: >> Pool holes the same, bro. It's
33: underground.
35: >> A lot of them.
35: >> It's like at least back where I'm
37: >> That was Chelsea. Chelsea Village was
38: underground too. Like some of the big
39: that was
40: >> And then the one up on 86 was at uh
42: >> I think at one point it was Amsterdam,
44: but it was it was upstairs. And then
45: there was another one on 86th Street on
47: the east side that was downstairs. Oh
49: yeah, the downstairs one's probably
50: shiftier.
51: >> That was the one that uh Nikki Schulman,
53: the guy I was telling you about that I
54: went to middle school with in elementary
56: school.
56: >> Oh, he would go to that one.
57: >> That's what we would just go during
58: lunch and I was like, "Why does this guy
00: like this place?"
00: >> There was hundreds of pool halls in the
03: the '9s when I lived in New York.
05: Hundreds. You'd go to these like 24-hour
07: Chinese joints.
08: >> You go in Chinatown, there's killer
10: players and they could barely speak
12: English. You But but my point is LA only
16: had one. My boy, my boy, this Chinese
18: kid, we called him cowboy. We went to uh
21: he was he was at our school. I mean,
22: like the kid had the strongest Chinese
24: accent. I think he was born in America.
25: It was crazy. It was like it's like I
27: didn't even understand. I was like,
28: "This guy's got to be putting it on." He
30: lived in like the Chinese version of
32: like the projects in Chinatown, right?
35: And he had a pool table in his
38: apartment.
40: >> Whoa. There's no room in the apartment.
42: It's the projects, right? Like I'm
43: watching his mom like skirt around the
45: pool table. Half the shots you can't
47: even do. But like the obsession was
48: unreal. And cowboy was was legit.
51: >> Yeah.
52: >> Yeah.
52: >> Oh, you need a place to practice in the
54: dark when no one's looking. That's the
56: thing about pool players. You want to
57: get good when no one's watching. So you
59: could sneak up on people.
00: >> Oh yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.
01: >> So they they have this idea how good you
03: play, but you play a lot better than
04: that. You got to be able to practice in
06: silence.
07: >> Yeah.
07: >> But now with the internet, you can't
08: hustle anymore. I feel like
09: >> No, there's no hustling anymore. There's
11: like maybe a few guys that could pull it
13: off on idiots,
14: >> but amongst highle guys, you know, every
17: your all the action is knocked. My point
19: was there's only one place in all of LA.
22: LA had 20 million people. There was one
24: place that was pretty good.
26: >> Yeah.
26: >> There was a there was a place in um the
30: valley. There was a couple places in
32: like when you start going out towards
34: Santa Barbara. Well, tout that. There
36: was a few places, but as far as like the
39: volume of New York City, it was not even
42: close.
43: >> It was New York, Connecticut, New
45: Jersey, they were all filled with
46: legendary pool hall. We used to play at
48: West End Billiards
50: >> in uh New Jersey. They had a weekly
52: tournament with like pros. It was in
53: Elizabeth, New Jersey. Super sketchy
57: area. Super sketchy. But you would go
00: there and you'd see Steve Miserak
02: playing Rodney Morris. two world class
05: world championship level pool pool
07: players in this shitty ass [ __ ] weird
10: spot with a diner counter there. It was
14: it was they were everywhere.
16: >> It's a cool world. The pool world.
18: >> Oh, it's it's a great world.
19: >> I remember I was here forget when it was
22: but like there you had a guy down here.
24: I don't know if he just did the pod, but
25: he was like an OG and I think he like
27: commentates maybe now, but
29: >> Jeremy Jones. Jeremy Jones. My boy.
31: Yeah. And uh he could hold court like he
33: was like storyteller.
35: >> Yeah, he's a funny dude. He's got he was
37: on the podcast too. He's got some great
38: [ __ ] stories.
39: >> Yeah, that was cool talking.
40: >> And he that dude won the US Open. The US
43: Open's the pool tournament where it's
46: the US Open, but people come from
48: everywhere. Like people come from all
50: around the world. Taiwan, Germany, all
53: over the place to play in that
54: tournament. That's the big one. And
55: Jeremy won that [ __ ] He won that [ __ ]
57: That's how good he played. hearing his
58: stories about like going like being like
01: essentially like a traveling pool
02: hustler and like popping into a town
04: where you heard there was some game and
06: you travel with like a couple other
07: people. One guy would like uh sense it
10: out. He would go play a couple games,
12: see who's there and then Jeremy would
13: just come in and just clean up for two
15: weeks straight
16: >> and then you're out of there.
17: >> Yep.
18: >> It is.
19: >> And you play like you suck at first.
21: >> At first, right? That's right. Yeah. The
22: first week you just let people beat up
23: on you a little bit and then the second
25: week
26: >> you eat their lunch. depends on how
27: thick your bankroll is, you know, like
30: if you could start off like just you you
32: only got like 150 to lose, you know,
34: like you have your gambling money and
36: like what can we [ __ ] with before we
38: start getting into real money? Cuz if
39: you want to get somebody on the hook,
40: you don't want to get them on the hook
41: for $100. You want to get them on the
43: hook for $5,000.
44: >> Hook means you want them to have the
46: confidence that they'll beat you.
48: >> Well, when they're on the hook is when
49: they're [ __ ]
50: >> right? So So you let them win a few
53: games and then you say, "Let's bet some
55: [ __ ] real money." Yeah.
56: >> And you know, you look nervous and [ __ ]
58: and then you get a game for $5,000.
01: You're like, "Okay, here we go."
03: >> And then you loosen up. Then all a
05: sudden the stroke is smooth and he's
07: like, "What the [ __ ] happened like
09: midway through that game when someone
10: realizes they're being hustled?"
12: >> Oh, they get mad. I've been there. I've
14: been there. Not with me. I was never
15: good enough to hustle people. But my
16: friend Johnny was a professional pool
18: hustler. My friend Johnny was a homeless
20: guy.
21: >> Not the guy that from Connecticut.
22: >> No, that's Tommy. Tommy. That's Tommy.
25: Tommy was different. Tommy wasn't as
27: crazy as Johnny. Like Tommy's clean and
30: sober. He has been like he smokes a
32: little weed, but like his whole life he
34: never drank, never did drugs, right? And
36: he was an elite pool player. But Johnny
39: was the Johnny actually used to play at
40: the subways, too. He used to go down. He
42: was a musician, so he would he would had
44: a little keyboard and [ __ ] That's one
46: of the ways that he made money.
47: >> But he would hustle people. That's how I
49: met him. He tried to hustle me. Yeah. He
52: just comes over and he starts, you know,
53: talking like, "Dude, you play pretty
55: good. You want to play some?" And I was
56: like, "What are we talking about, man?
58: >> Did you have the defenses up?" Like,
00: >> right away I knew I could smell a
01: predator. I was like, "Get the [ __ ] out
03: of here."
03: >> So,
06: we became friends.
07: >> So, he So, he sees it. Do you respect
09: the hustle?
10: >> 100%.
11: >> Okay. So, within pool, someone trying to
12: hustle you, it's not seen as it's not
15: seen as like an act of aggression at
17: all. It's just like this is part of the
18: game.
19: >> It's part of the part of the fun.
20: >> Yeah. It's part of the fun.
22: >> Oh, so you almost appreciate when
23: someone's
24: >> 100% cuz you you don't know like is this
26: guy [ __ ] with me? You play good? Do
28: you play good?
29: >> And you don't know. Did you ever see the
30: movie The Color of Money?
32: >> No.
32: >> This is There's a scene where was it
34: >> Paul Newman and Forest Whitaker. Forest
37: Whitaker hustles Paul Newman.
38: >> Yeah.
39: >> And uh and he at one point in time Paul
42: Newman goes,
43: >> "Are you a hustler? Are you a hustler?"
45: Because Paul Newman in the movie The
47: Hustler was the guy who did that to
49: other people. He pretended he sucked and
51: then he would eventually get all their
52: money.
53: >> Yeah.
53: >> And he goes, "Uh, and Forest Whitaker
56: looks at goes, "Wow, you want to quit?"
58: >> He goes, "You can quit."
01: >> And he's like, "Fuck you." He's like,
02: "All right, let's go." And then he's
04: he's got him on the hook cuz he's better
06: than him. And Paul Newman has to
07: realize, "Oh my god, this young guy is
09: better than me and he's stealing my
11: money." And at the end, he asks him a
12: question. He goes, "Can I ask you a
13: question?
14: >> Do you think I need to lose some
16: weight?"
17: And he just smiles at him and he just
19: walks off because you know Forest
20: Whitaker is fat.
21: >> Yeah. Yeah.
22: >> You know, he just smiled at him and he
24: just peels the hundreds off the table
26: and leaves.
28: >> That's part of the fun. Part of the fun
30: is like maybe you're going to get got.
32: But it can only happen in two ways. If
34: you are naive or if you suck. Cuz if
37: you're the best, you can't get hustled.
39: >> Yeah. I guess what I'm trying to say is
40: like uh in in just regular life, if
43: somebody was trying to hustle me, I
45: would be like, "Fuck you. you're an
46: [ __ ] but there's a different it's
48: almost like prison rules. Like there's a
50: different set of rules. Like being
51: racist is wrong in regular life. And
53: then everybody goes into prison. It's
54: like, all right, we're going to divide
55: this thing up a little bit, you know?
00: Throw it back to the 1800s. You go over
02: here, we go here, right? And it's just
04: like I don't even know if they look at
06: it as hateful. I think they're like this
07: is just what we got to do to make it
09: through. I I assume that's kind of more
10: or less what I'm sure there's hateful
12: guys within it. Yes. Yeah.
13: >> But like so so I just I just find it
17: interesting when people have different
18: rule sets that they operate within
21: society. Yes.
22: >> And I feel like this is one of them
23: where a guy's coming over to essentially
25: steal your money, but you understand
28: that the game is that. So you're like,
30: "Okay, I'm going to let you like ris me
32: up a little bit. Like I'm going to let
34: you fake charm me and I might actually
36: get you over."
37: >> And there's no animosity between the
39: sharks. Have you ever seen two elite
41: pool players talk about the game about
43: like setting up a game? They're like, I
44: don't know. I haven't been playing.
46: >> Yeah. Yeah.
47: >> I haven't been hitting balls, you know?
48: I'm not really I I can't give you any
50: weight, man. I'm just not playing that
52: good.
52: >> Weight is like
53: >> Weight is like a spot.
54: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
55: >> So, like if nineball So, like if you and
57: I were playing nineball and you were
58: kind of good, I would say, "Look, I'll
00: give you the eightball, which means you
02: could win by pocketing the eightball or
04: the nineball." way increases your
07: ability to win the game because you can
09: make combinations. You could luck in the
11: eightball. Luck in the N. And I would
13: say it's call or wild.
15: >> What does that mean?
15: >> So, it's wild. It means you could knock
17: into some balls and accidentally knock
19: in the eightball and you'd win the game.
20: I would say I'll give you the call shot
22: eight. You're like, no, I need it wild.
23: And we'd have this conversation. I need
25: it wild and I need the brakes. Like, oh,
27: I don't know about the breaks. And you'd
29: have to like work out a game, a spot.
31: So, like that's where the hustling comes
33: in because someone pretends they need
37: weight that can beat you. They can beat
39: you already and then they get you to
41: give them weight.
42: >> So now, yeah, now you got a lot of
44: confidence going in. You're like, "This
45: guy sucks to the point where I got to
46: give them."
47: >> Do you know open micers that are way too
49: confident for their actual ability? You
51: know, open micers that think they're
52: doing well or guys in the beginning.
54: >> I'll be honest, I don't know any open
55: micers anymore.
58: >> Yes. But you remember that's the same
01: way with pool players. There's pool
02: players that are kind of okay but think
05: they're a lot better than they are. And
07: if if they're a [ __ ] and you could
09: dance with their ego a little bit like,
11: "Dude, I saw you play uh Mikey, you're
13: [ __ ] amazing, man. When you get
15: loose, you're way better than me."
17: >> And the guy's like, "I'll give you a
19: spot." And then, you know, he's giving
20: you the eightball and he can't beat you
23: even. It's half of the fun. Jeremy Jones
26: told me a story about uh how he hustled
28: Marcus Shamont. Marcus Shamont is like a
30: worldclass pool player, like a top
33: flight pool player, and he hustled him
36: by getting him to give him weight.
37: >> And Jeremy could beat him even
40: >> and why would Marcus do it? Like he must
42: know any better. He didn't know Jeremy
44: came up with a fake name.
45: >> Oh, okay. Okay. That that's crazy.
49: That's
49: >> Well, they all had fake names. They all
51: had fake names.
52: >> Yeah. Yeah. He told me that when he was
54: coming down to Texas to get those games
55: like Yeah. You come up with a fake name
57: and like somebody else talks about you.
59: >> Yes.
00: >> Like your buddy who goes in to kind of
01: like scope it out. Talks about you.
03: >> He gamles high. Yeah. He's He's a wild
05: He loses a lot, but he's not he's not
08: scared to gamble and everybody loves to
09: hear that kind of stupid talk.
10: >> Yeah.
11: >> Do you know who Efron Reyes is?
12: >> Yo, you told me about this guy and then
14: I started looking him up, bro.
15: >> But what was his other name?
16: >> Caesar Morales.
17: >> Yes.
18: >> He came here from the Philippines. This
20: is how strong he was from another
22: country. He had to change his name.
26: >> This before Google, before Wikipedia,
29: >> black and white photo. There's a black
32: and white photo that I have a t-shirt of
35: was like Morales stuns the field at
37: Reds. He came over from the Philippines
39: and robbed everybody. Robbed the best
42: blue players in America. We had to fake
44: his name cuz if he said Efron Reyes,
47: you'd see the look on the Filipino face
49: like Ephine. Efron's here.
51: >> Efron here.
51: >> Yeah.
52: >> Ba. They called him Ba.
54: >> The kid was this.
56: >> I wonder if this is like early days.
59: >> That's it. Look at that.
00: >> That's
00: >> Look at that photo, bro. Black and white
02: photog.
06: >> Yeah. Yeah,
06: >> it didn't have to be black and white in
07: 85,
09: >> but that dude rolled over here and
11: started [ __ ] people up.
13: >> Says his name on there.
15: >> Oh, signs his name Efron Reyes.
18: >> Well, you know what it is? Because when
19: he played in the tournament, he went
22: under the name of Caesar Morales. Then
23: he had to collect his money. He needed
25: like a real name where he had ID to cash
28: the check.
29: >> Bob says there's another guy that was
30: using an alias, too.
31: >> Well, Wade Crane. Wade Crane would go
33: around as Billy Johnson. That was his
35: nom deplor when he was hustling. Billy
38: Johnson, but he was Wade Crane. He was
40: this big [ __ ]
42: >> like linebacker looking dude who had a
44: cannon for a break. Just boom.
47: >> Yeah.
47: >> And then it would just run out on people
49: all over the country. And but the thing
51: is if you rob Lemons, that's when you're
54: getting in fights. So if you rob regular
57: people, that's a regular guy who who
59: doesn't really play pool. Yeah. and you
01: hustle him, that's when you get in
04: fights because they don't know how the
07: this whole thing works. Yeah. Because
09: lied to me and stole my money of
10: engagement. They they think it's a
12: crime,
14: >> you know? They play better than you
15: really
16: >> amongst the sharks. They don't play. You
18: have to be like really desperate to play
20: lemons. If you find some idiots just
23: knocking some eightballs around and you
25: could tell they can't play at all. Yeah.
28: And you start talking [ __ ] to getting
29: their ego and you you convince one of
31: these dummies to play you for money,
33: >> you're stealing money and they might
35: kill you.
36: >> Yeah.
36: >> But if you do it to a guy who's involved
38: in a gambling match for pool, like him
41: and his buddies are playing and they're
43: >> professional fighters fighting each
44: other.
44: >> Yeah.
45: >> Exactly. Exactly. It's the rules of
46: engagement and amongst pool players,
48: it's part of the fun. Yeah.
50: >> Like they'll go for an hour and a half
51: without making a game
53: >> just talking [ __ ] about different spots.
55: I'm going to need this. I'm gonna need
57: that.
58: >> Cuz they're addicted to that part too.
00: >> Oh yeah.
01: >> Like sometimes
02: >> foreplay.
03: >> Yeah.
04: >> Yeah.
04: >> Hey, you want to go right in there?
06: Yeah. [ __ ]
06: >> suck on it a little.
08: >> Yeah. Let's get the juices flowing. Come
10: on.
11: >> It's fun to
13: >> Yeah. It's fun to
14: >> It's fun to enjoy something,
17: especially
18: >> Yeah. When you sit down at a restaurant,
20: you don't immediately get food stuffed
22: right in your face.
22: >> Yeah.
23: >> You sit down, you have a glass of wine,
25: you start talking. Let me tell you what
27: this guy told me. And then like And
29: you're having fun.
29: >> But are you doing that when you're when
30: you're playing?
31: >> Like you said, you're playing how many
33: hours a week now?
34: >> It depends. Sometimes I'll play like two
37: hours in a day every day.
39: >> Okay. So, let's say you're playing bare
41: minimum, let's say 10 hours a week,
42: >> right?
44: >> That's not good enough.
45: >> Yeah, I I know. I mean, I remember when
47: we were talking last time, you said that
48: like
49: >> pros play eight hours a day.
50: >> Yeah. But you said some crazy [ __ ] You
52: said uh you're like, I don't start
55: playing well until like hour six or
58: something like that.
59: >> Hour two.
00: >> You said some [ __ ] about like I need to
01: be a little drunk. I need to be like a
03: little loose. Like,
04: >> no, not drunk. A little high helps. It
06: was one you started like everything that
08: goes against what should work for like
10: your physical ability,
12: >> right?
13: >> I don't know. You you mentioned
14: something about like flow or something.
15: I think this is with Jones too. Like
16: Jones was like, "Yeah, I like getting
18: into it." Like he was like, "I'll I'll
19: play for like six hours and then I'm
20: starting to really kind of warm up. I'm
22: locking in. I'm dialing in like
24: >> and that's why it's like first to 100."
27: Like that's another thing I didn't
28: realize. I didn't realize guys are
29: playing 100 games over like two days.
32: >> Three days. 120 is a big one. I thought
35: it's like, yo, we play a couple. It's
36: like best out of five.
38: >> And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. Like,
40: you're up. And sometimes part of it is
42: being able to outlast them.
44: >> Mhm.
45: >> Like the exhaustion takes over and
47: sometimes people tap out.
48: >> Well, it's concentration goes away. The
51: like the the concentration of focusing
53: on an edge of a ball at distance and
56: then also not moving your arm off this
59: line. Yeah. So, there's a line that I'm
01: when I'm stroking a ball. There's a line
04: coming out of this. I can't Sora. Sora,
07: do your thing.
07: >> Here we are. I help you out.
09: >> Have the kids come in. Peanut butter.
11: >> The from the
16: >> from the elbow to the cradle. Right. I'm
19: holding on to that Q like a baby bird.
22: >> Oh, really? It's a soft uh
23: >> Oh, it's very soft. I hold on to it like
25: like a little baby bird. I never like
28: death grip. It's very light. Very
30: >> Who would death grip it?
31: >> Who?
32: >> Peanut But no.
37: >> See what sore is doing to us.
39: >> Yeah, man.
39: >> No. No. No. Okay. So, it's a light grip
41: and then on the final stroke you have to
44: >> The thing is it's like even then it's
46: like mostly the weight of the queue.
47: It's like a little bit of like wrist
49: action and I'm trying to like have as
51: little I let the queue slip a little in
55: my grip as it makes contact. It's really
57: like the weight of the cube.
59: >> Why would you want to reduce force?
00: >> It's not reducing force. It's actually
02: the opposite. I actually get more force.
05: >> Oh, you let it slip forward into it. I
08: thought on impact it slides back in your
09: hands.
10: >> No, it goes through my hand. I have to
12: catch it before it goes away. Got it.
14: Got it.
14: >> Jeremy calls it throwing the queue. And
16: he showed me the technique. And um it's
19: also the the old school guys used to
21: call it a slip stroke where the queue
23: like slips in your hand a little bit and
25: it's a sign that you're like barely like
28: Ephine was the best at it. Efron cradled
30: the queue like his hands were delicate.
33: He's barely holding it and his wrist was
36: loose and it makes the Q ball dance like
39: there's no sliding. If you hit it too
41: hard the CQ ball slides. It's like it
44: gets pushed. It's crude. But if you hit
47: it gently, you stroke the ball, it just
50: rolls forward perfectly and collides
53: with the other ball, gets perfect
54: position, it's a work of art. But it's a
56: work of art that only someone who
58: practices it can understand.
00: >> People,
02: as like I was telling you about playing
03: paddle and how like obsessed I am. And
05: you're you immediately were like, I'm
07: playing pool 14 hours a week. And it's
09: just I don't I don't think people
10: realize like how important it is to just
12: have some [ __ ] that you enjoy
14: >> so important
15: >> that you're not making money at or
16: anything like that. Like
18: >> how nice is it? It's just it's like a
19: removal from all like this stupid stress
21: chaos all people talking [ __ ] what the
23: internet is fabricated. Like it's great
25: to have a couple hours.
27: >> Maybe that's what it is. Like I
29: >> it centers you for sure. There's some
32: like archery does that for me too. Um,
34: you need something that you're focusing
36: on getting really good at that's [ __ ]
39: hard. Who that doesn't give a [ __ ] who
41: you are. Yeah. Doesn't give a [ __ ] what
43: your name is. Doesn't give a [ __ ] if you
45: sold out Madison Square Garden.
46: >> Just you better put that [ __ ] arrow
49: on that target or you're a loser.
51: >> You're a loser.
53: >> Like put it put it in there. And that's
56: there's absolute truth in pool. There's
00: absolute truth in archery. Absolute
02: truth. The arrow either hits the target
04: or it does not. There is no room for
07: charisma. There's no room for [ __ ]
11: >> It either gets in there or it does not.
13: And I think things like that, whether
15: it's golf or paddle for you or whatever
18: it is, jiu-jitsu for some people,
21: >> you either tap someone or you do not.
23: You either get tapped or you tap them.
25: Yeah.
26: >> You know, and there's absolute truth in
28: that. And stuff like that is like really
31: good for artists because art is so
34: subjective.
36: >> Also successful people like
38: >> it's nice to have something that humbles
40: you.
41: >> Yes.
41: >> You know what I mean? Like people are
42: meeting you all day. They're probably so
44: excited and like they're they're being
46: versions of theirelves around you, you
48: know? Like do you ever even feel like
50: that? Like like how many people are you
52: having like a normal conversation where
53: you're like talking [ __ ] and they're not
55: going, "Oh my god, I'm talking to Joe
56: Rogan right now." M
57: >> like is that why like is that why being
00: around comedians that you've known for
02: so long is valuable to you? Is that why
04: like being around these pool guys that
06: yes they know you're Joe but like once
07: you start playing like you either suck
10: at pool
11: >> Yeah.
12: >> or you can play like is is there like a
15: uh does it like bring you back to
17: humanity in some ways?
19: >> Oh for sure it helps. Yeah. It keeps you
21: humble. Yeah. Jiu-Jitsu is the best at
23: that because not only are they beating
25: you, they're literally killing you and
26: you're saying, "He just killed me."
28: >> Yeah.
28: >> Thanks. Don't Don't rip my knee apart.
30: Thanks. Don't Don't break my arm. Thank
32: you.
34: >> If you get a guy gets you in an arm bar,
36: man, it is so humiliating.
38: >> It's so funny that like this is like
39: this is such a delicate thing before you
42: die.
42: >> Yeah. Well, often you even say it, too.
45: Like sometimes you just say tap tap tap
47: tap tap. Yeah. You know, like that uh
49: that happened in one of the last UFC's.
51: Um a dude was saying tap tap tap uh Josh
54: EMTT when he got caught. He got caught
57: in an arbar and had to verbally tap.
59: It's uh you you get humbled.
02: >> Yeah.
03: >> It's it's real. It is what it is. And if
05: you don't have anything like that in
06: life,
06: >> you can like really have this aversion
08: to losing. And an aversion to losing is
11: very [ __ ] dangerous. It's very
13: [ __ ] dangerous.
14: >> Yeah. You just get comfy. Y
16: >> Yeah. You need to have something that
18: You need to have something that scares
19: you. Being scared is good.
21: >> Well, it gives you some resilience. It's
22: like if you're a person who sleeps all
24: day and now you have to run a marathon.
26: Well, you're not going to be able to.
27: Yeah.
28: >> Cuz you've never ran, right? But if you
30: run all the time, you can run a [ __ ]
31: marathon and it's real relaxing,
34: >> you know? It's really just how much you
35: put into it.
36: >> And if you're not a person who's used to
38: losing at anything ever and then you
40: lose, it's devastating for your whole
43: life.
43: >> Yeah. This is like the um you know if
46: you're like a like a a prince or
48: something like that.
49: >> Uh-huh. Exactly. You're jaw-free.
51: >> Yeah.
51: >> Yeah.
52: >> And that can happen and you don't build
54: up that resilience. I almost feel like
56: it's you almost have some empathy for
58: it, you know, because like they never
59: had 20 years, 30 years toiling in
02: obscurity before they got success. So
04: they we you know like we at least have
06: something to like look back on and
08: realize how [ __ ] humbling it is, how
09: shitty people can be, etc. But like they
11: never experienced that.
12: >> Childhood stars.
14: childhood stars are all [ __ ] up.
15: There's not I never met one of them
17: that's got their you know some of them
19: are really interesting still like Miley
21: Miley Cyrus. She's really interesting.
23: She's very smart
24: >> and she's really good. Like her her
26: music is like she's not trying to be
28: like pop hit girl. She's just trying to
31: express herself. It's like real legit
33: art. But ain't no way you get that
36: famous that young. your [ __ ] Hannah
37: Montana when you're a teenager and the
40: whole world is cheering for you and you
41: don't get a little crazy because of
43: that.
43: >> Yeah.
44: >> I never met one of them that's got their
45: [ __ ] together.
46: >> Is that the Britney thing?
48: >> Yeah, 100%. Man,
50: >> that's Michael Jackson. He's the best
52: example of it of all time.
54: >> I wonder just what responsibility
56: >> I wonder what responsibility like the
58: people around them have.
59: >> A lot,
00: >> you know?
01: >> A lot. They might not know it while it's
03: happening though.
03: >> Yeah. Cuz they're getting paid off it.
05: It's It's a little bit of that, but it's
06: not shunned. Like, it's still a thing in
09: Hollywood.
10: >> What do you mean?
11: >> I mean, in Hollywood, when when you have
14: children and your children want to act,
16: people encourage it. They like bring
18: their kids to auditions. They they call
20: them, you know,
21: >> whether it's audition moms or, you know,
24: what's the term?
25: >> Stage moms. That's it. Stage mom. Stage
27: moms. Like, dude, those are real, man.
29: I've worked with kids before on a TV
31: show and like I had one of the moms of
34: the kids was like, "How does she how
36: does she get more work? What does she
38: need to do?" And I was like, "I don't
40: know." I'm like, "I don't come from this
41: world. I'm a comedian. I come from a
43: totally different world. I don't I don't
45: know how you go about doing it." But the
47: mom was like super desperate to get her
49: kid more work. And I was like,
51: >> and that's the tricky thing because it's
52: not like merit-based like sports in a
54: lot of ways. Like there are people that
56: are good at [ __ ] they're good at
57: acting, etc., But like a lot of it is
00: maybe who you know, what they're willing
01: to do, how uncomfortable a position
03: they're willing to be in.
05: >> I think it's most of that I think
07: >> cuz most people at that level,
09: especially like little kid acting.
11: >> Yeah.
11: >> Most people are pretty similar. There's
13: no like one little kid like, "Oh my god,
14: he's a Maron Brando of little kids."
16: >> Yeah.
16: >> Like
17: >> maybe there's Ricky Schroeder from The
19: Champ.
20: >> Do you ever see that movie The Champ
21: with John Voit?
22: >> Oh my god, dude. Oh my god. I saw a
25: little kid. I cried my eyes out. It's uh
27: it's a rough movie. It's about uh this
30: boxer who who dies. John Voit dies and
33: his kid is trying to get him to wake up.
35: He's like, "Wake up, champ." He died in
37: the ring.
39: >> But but it's like crazy. He's crying.
42: You're like, "Oh my god, it seems so
45: real."
46: >> How old is the kid?
48: >> I don't know how old Ricky Schroeder
49: was, was supposed to be in the movie,
51: but he's a kid. He's like nine or
53: something like that. So imagine being
54: nine like knowing how to cry on Q.
56: >> Crazy, right?
58: >> Like where are you? Yeah,
59: >> I know.
00: >> Accessing that emotional depth.
02: >> He did that and then he did Silver
04: Spoons. He had this TV show he did like
06: and you know
07: >> he was seven.
09: >> Yeah.
09: >> God damn. Seven.
11: >> Yeah. It's a it's a fine line because
13: you see some of these parents not like a
15: stage parent like
15: >> Yeah. There he is right there.
17: >> Even like uh
18: >> It's so sad.
21: You know the uh you know the guy who
22: drives for for Red Bull, Max Versstappen
25: heard his name. Yeah.
26: >> Widely while he's like considered the
28: best driver right now. Like despite
30: maybe the car not being elite, he's so
32: elite that he can compete with maybe
34: better cars on the track and he's
35: already won a bunch of championships
37: etc. But like I think his dad was also a
38: driver and apparently like his dad
42: cultivated a next champion and like that
45: was the goal. Tiger Woods.
47: >> And but the the thing right there is
48: like your kid is going to be born with
50: certain things and you can if they have
54: that like ambition, that hunger and that
57: resilience, you can give them some tough
00:00: love and maybe make a champion out of
00:01: them. But some of them don't. And I
00:03: think that you could break a kid like
00:05: that, too.
00:06: >> That's a tricky thing I always think
00:07: with with, you know, my daughter is like
00:09: >> and any future kids is I don't I don't
00:12: know if I don't I don't have that at
00:14: this point in my life. I don't have
00:15: that. I need to make you into something.
00:18: >> You shouldn't.
00:18: >> I I I just kind of
00:19: >> You got to let them be themselves. Yeah.
00:21: >> Cuz they all are going to have the the
00:23: worst thing is like say if you have a
00:24: kid and you love baseball and you force
00:26: your [ __ ] kid to play baseball, you
00:28: got to go to baseball practice and you
00:30: force your kid to play professionally.
00:32: >> Yep.
00:33: >> You know, I was lucky. I was ambitious
00:35: and I had parents that just supported
00:37: the things that I was ambitious about.
00:38: So if I wanted to hoop, they were like,
00:40: "All right, let's go play basketball."
00:41: And my dad was like, "Let's go every
00:42: single day. Whatever you want to do,
00:43: like let's go." But I never felt this
00:45: like this stage mom or dad presence
00:48: where they were they were going, "Hey,
00:50: you missed four shots today. Let's
00:51: review those shots that you missed and
00:52: let's figure out ways that you can't do
00:54: it." Right.
00:54: >> Like kind of let me have that on my own.
00:56: >> Yeah.
00:57: >> I don't need you to insert your ambition
00:58: into me. I feel like that's kind of
01:00: selfish in a lot of ways.
01:01: >> It is. And it's also it's like you got
01:03: to know when the line is like maybe they
01:06: do want advice. Like maybe they are
01:07: trying to get better at this thing. But
01:09: you have to have the kind of
01:10: communication with your kid would be
01:12: like, "Do you do you want some help?
01:14: >> Want me to help you?"
01:14: >> Yeah.
01:15: >> You know, like like I can I can give you
01:17: some information. Like say if your kid
01:19: wanted to like if your kid want to do
01:21: standup and your kids started doing
01:22: standup and you know they're bombing and
01:25: you're like um
01:27: >> do you want me to talk to you?
01:28: >> Do you want to talk? You want to just
01:29: work this out on your own? Like you have
01:30: to have that kind of open level of
01:33: communication with your kids where they
01:35: can tell you like hey just leave me the
01:36: [ __ ] alone right now. Okay.
01:38: >> Okay. just I know you bombed, you know,
01:40: it sucks.
01:41: >> Yeah.
01:41: >> I can tell you about my bombs. I bombed
01:43: a lot.
01:43: >> I'll tell you what what I learned. I got
01:45: better after the bombing. Like it's like
01:47: it sucks, but it's actually good for
01:49: you.
01:49: >> So, you're delicate with your kids.
01:50: >> Yeah, you have to be. I have daughters.
01:52: >> Yeah.
01:53: >> You know, if I had a son, I'd beat the
01:55: [ __ ] out of him. Take take him to
01:56: jiu-jitsu. Make sure that he knows I can
01:59: kill him with my bare hands.
02:00: >> God, you got daughters, bro. Maybe maybe
02:02: we needed Rogan to have that. Maybe
02:04: that's your destiny, man. Maybe that
02:05: softens you up a little bit.
02:07: >> It definitely does. Um, it just lets you
02:09: understand that they're so different.
02:11: The the way they are, they're so
02:13: different. Like my friends that have
02:14: sons, they come home, the people are
02:15: lighting things on fire, they're picking
02:17: the cat up by its tail. Like
02:19: >> there's there's all these people who
02:20: don't have kids that have all these
02:22: opinions about gender and like what's
02:23: your
02:24: >> porn and all this other stuff. I don't
02:25: need to get into the whole gender
02:26: discussion, but like I see the way that
02:28: slightly older girls play with my
02:30: daughter.
02:31: >> So like my daughter's, you know, a
02:33: little over 20 months, right? So, the
02:35: three-year-olds and four-year-olds that
02:36: play with her,
02:38: >> they're already kind of like mothering,
02:40: right?
02:40: >> They're like patient with her.
02:42: >> They're delicate. They'll want to give
02:44: her a toy if she wants to give it back.
02:45: They're fine. It's just like this
02:46: amazing thing. They're like, I don't
02:48: know how. Maybe they're watching their
02:50: mom do it to them, etc. But the boys
02:52: don't give a [ __ ]
02:54: >> right? And older boys will convince
02:55: younger boys to jump off the top bunk
02:57: >> in a second.
02:58: >> Yeah.
02:58: >> In a second. Yeah.
02:59: >> My boy Jason got uh two kids, both boys.
03:01: And like you could tell if we weren't
03:03: there, the older kid is going to throw
03:05: the the younger kid wherever the hell he
03:07: wants to throw them.
03:08: >> Like we got to constantly monitor.
03:09: >> Yeah.
03:10: >> You know,
03:11: >> and that's something baked in.
03:12: >> Yeah.
03:13: >> Baked in.
03:14: >> Yeah. They're like dogs.
03:15: >> Yeah.
03:16: >> Hey, hey, hey.
03:17: >> That might be generous.
03:18: >> Yeah.
03:19: >> Even dogs would be nice with babies.
03:21: >> Yeah. They're not Well, they're probably
03:22: okay with babies, but as soon as you can
03:24: start walking, you're on your own.
03:25: They're going to trip you.
03:26: >> Let's [ __ ] dance. It's if if it's a
03:28: 5-year-old to a 2-year-old, uh maybe.
03:30: But once you get to be three and four,
03:32: [ __ ] you. And you know, it's also this
03:35: understanding that you keep getting
03:36: bigger. And like as like as time goes
03:39: on, like the younger ones, like if
03:41: someone's picking on you, you can pick
03:42: on someone younger than you. And like
03:44: there's especially if like four
03:45: brothers, like the toughest brother is
03:48: always the youngest brother. Like if
03:49: there's a bunch of fighters Yeah. They
03:51: went through it. If there's a bunch of
03:52: fighters and he has three older
03:53: brothers.
03:54: >> Did John have three older brothers?
03:56: No, John I think is the middle. I think
04:00: Arthur is the oldest. He just died. Rest
04:04: in peace.
04:05: >> And then John And then Chandler's
04:07: younger, right? Is that correct?
04:09: >> John was the youngest.
04:10: >> No. Yeah, you're right.
04:10: >> Chandler's younger.
04:11: >> Chandler's the youngest. But
04:13: >> big boys.
04:14: >> Here's the thing. John's the only one
04:16: who became a legit fighter, but Chandler
04:19: was always like, I'll [ __ ] John up. Like
04:21: he said it publicly. Like that's how
04:23: they grow up. Well, you grew up in a
04:25: household with two super athletes as
04:28: brothers.
04:29: >> I I just I I have empathy for their dad.
04:32: Like, imagine trying to discipline those
04:34: three guys when they're like 16,
04:36: >> right? Good luck. Good luck.
04:39: >> I sat next to them when we were at the
04:40: uh
04:40: >> 65.
04:41: >> No, no, no. They're just they're just
04:44: different. Is different.
04:45: >> And their their grandmother is John told
04:48: me is where the genetics come from. Oh,
04:49: really? He goes, "This is my grandma."
04:51: And he introduced me his grandmother.
04:52: I'm like, "Yo, his grandmother's She's
04:54: big. She's big, man. Big lady.
04:59: >> Yeah, we sat next to them at the uh at
05:01: the Spear fight.
05:02: >> Ah,
05:03: >> and they're all having the best time.
05:04: They're just like
05:05: >> Yeah, John's always having a good time.
05:06: I like he's wearing cowboy hats now.
05:08: He's leaning into
05:09: >> dude. He's so funny.
05:10: >> He's the sheriff.
05:12: >> It's funny how he like he's like, you
05:14: know, they were trying to pressure him
05:15: to fight Tom Aspenol.
05:16: >> Is he going to fight? Like, what's the
05:17: deal?
05:18: >> Who knows?
05:19: >> That's part of the fun.
05:20: >> I feel like, you know,
05:20: >> he's he's doing what a pool hustler
05:22: does.
05:22: >> That's what I was about to Oh, that's
05:23: what he's doing. Like I guarantee you if
05:25: John really thinks that he's fighting in
05:28: June, he's already in camp.
05:30: >> Oh, so he's making it seem like he's not
05:32: potentially.
05:32: >> I would imagine that John is preparing
05:34: cuz So like John has different places to
05:36: train. You know, he doesn't just train
05:38: at one place, but I could imagine he
05:40: does a lot of weightlifting, too. He got
05:41: a lot of put on a lot of like real
05:43: muscle mass when he went up to
05:44: heavyweight.
05:45: >> Heavyweight. Yeah.
05:46: >> If John really thinks he's going to
05:47: fight uh Alex Pereira, he's getting
05:50: ready. Yeah,
05:51: >> he's at least getting ready in his mind.
05:52: >> Would it be Alex or you think it would
05:54: be really? So, not so the Tom ship has
05:56: sailed.
05:57: >> The big No, it hasn't sailed. But the
06:00: big money fight is Alex and Jon Jones at
06:03: the White House. Are you [ __ ] kidding
06:05: me?
06:06: >> Yeah.
06:06: >> Catchweight. Make it 225.
06:09: >> You know, Alex still is the light
06:10: heavyweight champion. Make it a
06:12: catchweight fight. It don't have to be
06:13: for a title. Make it the bad
06:15: [ __ ] upper edition. You know,
06:18: you have the BMF belt for 155ers. Who's
06:21: the real BMF? Yeah. You know, do you
06:23: think one of those guys could beat Alex
06:24: Pereira? You think you get 155 pounder
06:27: in there against Alex Pereira?
06:29: >> Max Holloway survive against Alex Pere.
06:31: No, shut the [ __ ] up. That's the bad
06:32: [ __ ]
06:34: >> That's the only heavyweight
06:36: >> we need. We need to do a like drop you
06:39: on your [ __ ] head, man. You don't
06:40: want to wrestle that dude.
06:42: >> That's is funny about that. They're
06:43: relationship. The kindest, sweetest guy
06:46: and And he's an animal. A full animal
06:49: when he fights.
06:50: >> That'd be a wild thing, man. That'd be a
06:52: wild thing.
06:53: >> The Jon Jones Alex Pereira fight would
06:55: probably be the biggest fight in human
06:57: history.
06:58: >> I mean, that White House
07:00: >> in MM but in as a matchup, you got the
07:03: greatest of all time in Jon Jones and
07:06: arguably the most destructive striker
07:08: that's ever competed.
07:10: >> Yeah.
07:10: >> No one's like that guy.
07:12: >> That Ankoliah fight,
07:14: >> he was like, "Fuck you,
07:15: >> dude." I I it was such a And again, I
07:18: don't know what's going through Uncle
07:19: Alive's head at this moment, right? But
07:20: I know what I'm thinking. I'm like, if
07:22: I'm Uncle, it's like, I out struck this
07:24: guy in the first time that they fought.
07:27: He's going to be cautious.
07:29: >> Yeah.
07:29: >> And I'm going to be able to walk him
07:30: down. And I remember the second the bell
07:32: rings, he runs right at him and he
07:34: throws like maybe like like a one, two,
07:35: one, and I think the the right is to the
07:37: body. And you could see Uncle go, "Whoa,
07:40: I did not expect the first five seconds
07:41: of this fight to go this way."
07:42: >> He came out hot and closed distance real
07:44: quick
07:44: >> immediately. And it was a great like
07:46: it's it's a testament to like um
07:48: somebody had said this before especially
07:50: in MMA it's like when somebody gets not
07:53: nervous or but or like when you shake
07:54: somebody out of their like natural
07:57: instinct they revert back to what
07:58: they're most comfortable doing. So it's
08:00: like if you're like a wrestling guy your
08:01: whole life and then you learn how to
08:02: strike. The second something goes a
08:04: little bit you know out of whack you're
08:06: going to revert back to your wrestling.
08:07: I think it might have been DC that said
08:08: I forget exactly who was I saying but
08:10: like you revert back to what you're most
08:11: comfortable with. DC said it right.
08:13: >> Okay. And um but I thought the most
08:15: interesting thing about that fight is
08:16: the punch that Pereira lands that stuns
08:19: him is this looping right.
08:22: >> Nobody's training for Pereira's right.
08:24: >> Right. Well, that's what he threw right
08:26: away. That was the first punch. It was a
08:27: straight right.
08:28: >> But he went to the body.
08:29: >> Yeah, it was long. This is long straight
08:32: right he started off the fight with.
08:34: >> But when he lands this like looping
08:36: right there,
08:37: >> it's not that one. It's a little bit
08:39: after that. So what he did is he set him
08:41: up and then got his foot in proper
08:44: position where he could step inside of
08:46: him and Uncle was ready for one thing.
08:49: And Pereira, watch this.
08:52: >> If you see where he sets it up, a guy
08:53: did a really good breakdown of it. I'll
08:55: watch it again.
08:56: >> He broke his foot there. Right there.
08:58: >> Yeah,
08:59: >> that kick. He hit the shin and he broke
09:01: his toe.
09:05: >> Yeah, I think he gets Uncle to switch
09:07: stances. Well, he's just putting mad
09:09: pressure on him. He's putting mad
09:10: pressure on him that you don't see from
09:12: him too often.
09:13: >> Yeah.
09:15: >> And it's time.
09:17: >> And he just dips in
09:20: and drops a [ __ ] hammer on him. Here
09:24: it is. Boom.
09:26: >> So he wrestling
09:28: >> Ankal started moving to the right to
09:32: Pereira's right when he put pressure on
09:33: him. And that's why and because
09:35: everybody's scared of the left. The
09:37: movement with Pereira is don't ever walk
09:40: to your right because that's walking
09:42: into his left hook.
09:43: >> Circle away.
09:43: >> So circle away. So their idea was we're
09:45: going to circle away. And Pereira was
09:46: like, I bet you're going to circle away.
09:48: Yeah.
09:48: >> And he just stomped him.
09:50: >> And this,
09:51: >> you could tell he enjoyed it.
09:53: >> Yeah. Because he was sick. The first
09:55: fight he was sick.
09:57: >> He was 100% sick. He was sick as a dog
10:00: the entire camp.
10:02: >> I didn't know that. But I also
10:04: >> his coach told me after the fight like
10:06: after he just knocked out Uncle Live, he
10:07: goes, "Let me tell you something. First
10:08: camp, he was so sick, bro. He was so
10:10: sick. Like he he he could barely eat."
10:13: >> Really?
10:13: >> Yeah. He I I think I said virus, but I
10:16: think it's norovirus. I think that's
10:18: going. And he also [ __ ] up his hand.
10:20: He had a really badly hurt left hand in
10:22: that fight.
10:22: >> That's the money maker.
10:24: >> And then when you see this, like that's
10:25: what you get when you get a fully in
10:27: shape and healthy Alex. You get stomped.
10:30: >> Yeah. But these guys are never fully
10:31: healthy. Like anytime I was just talking
10:33: to uh I believe his name is Paul Hughes.
10:36: >> Do you know him? He just fought uh it's
10:38: PFL. He fought a guy. I think he fought
10:42: uh
10:43: >> Usman
10:44: >> Usman. Yeah.
10:46: >> Yeah. And uh for the second time, the
10:49: first fight was like contested. It was a
10:51: close fight. In the second,
10:52: >> if you're a Ner Nurmagoff, if you're you
10:54: know, you're in the Kabib camp. Yeah. I
10:56: mean, come on, son.
10:57: >> Yeah. Yeah.
10:59: >> It's real [ __ ] But the first carry that
11:00: last name around
11:01: >> it's there's a lot of responsibility.
11:03: >> Kabib Namedov might be like the greatest
11:06: name in the history of like grappling
11:08: MMA fighting. Like you you've got
11:11: Kabib's last name.
11:12: >> Yeah.
11:13: >> Yeah. If you saw that on a lineup in a
11:15: jiu-jitsu tournament or something, you'd
11:17: be like
11:17: >> Ner Manov. Oh god.
11:21: >> You like you would just have a thousand
11:22: yards still like [ __ ] Anyway, like he
11:24: fought him again and like,
11:26: >> you know, he was like, "Yeah, I was
11:27: dealing with a bunch of, you know, some
11:28: I was dealing with some stuff in campus,
11:30: but I don't want to make excuses because
11:31: we're always dealing with some stuff."
11:32: He was like, he was like, "He's probably
11:34: dealing with stuff like that guy." I
11:36: mean, it was it was a close fight, but I
11:38: thought that uh he came out to the show
11:40: in Dubai. And I was like, and he was
11:42: like uh
11:43: >> he was like, he's like, "Yeah, he's just
11:44: like really good. He's just like a
11:46: really good guy." And I thought that I
11:47: could get him. I think I still can.
11:48: Maybe happens one day in the future. But
11:50: I was this honest approach where where
11:52: he was basically saying we're always a
11:54: little injured. We're fighters.
11:55: >> Like naturally in training camp, you're
11:57: going to hurt something. You're going to
11:58: tweak something. Now granted, you got
12:00: [ __ ] neuro virus. This is a little
12:01: bit different than like your, you know,
12:03: shoulder sore, right?
12:04: >> But like everybody's dealing with a
12:05: little [ __ ]
12:06: >> 100%. Look at Connor. He came into that
12:08: fight with Dustin Poria with a broken
12:10: shin already.
12:11: >> Didn't give a [ __ ]
12:12: >> Well, he just thought it's not that
12:13: broken.
12:14: >> Yeah.
12:15: >> He's like, Dude, Connor is like reaching
12:17: final form like as a promoter. It's like
12:20: he's already so prolific obviously as a
12:22: fighter, etc., but like watching him do
12:24: the BKFC. I kind of just want to go to
12:26: see him hype up fights. Like I want to
12:28: go to the press conference where he's
12:30: just like, what was he saying? He's
12:31: like, "And if you don't win, we're
12:33: firing you on the spot to Mike Perry."
12:35: And Mike's like, "What did I what why
12:36: why did I do? I'm just getting punched
12:38: in the face."
12:39: >> He's like chest bumping the guys who
12:42: were fighting. Like he's not even
12:44: fighting yet.
12:45: >> He's like It's like Dana calling out the
12:47: guys.
12:47: >> Yeah. What are you doing? What are you
12:49: doing?
12:50: >> What is that entertaining? I want to
12:51: watch one of them BKFC.
12:52: >> I want to know if it's real or if he's
12:54: really on the most potent Bolivian
12:56: marching powder, like the purest of the
12:59: pure.
13:00: >> Whatever he's on, I need to try it. I
13:02: mean,
13:02: >> or is it an act? I mean, maybe he's just
13:04: duping us all. What is he saying here?
13:06: >> Look at this guy here. Look at him.
13:08: >> Me and in front of me, some of the
13:11: baddest men and women to ever grace
13:14: planet Earth. This is what we're about
13:16: here at Bernuckle Fighting Championship.
13:18: the alien of combat sport. And may we
13:21: rise above the night sky and rain down
13:25: blows viciously on all our deniers and
13:29: announce here today that Bare Knuckle FC
13:32: has no love for the big glove. So let's
13:36: go. Let's go Florida and let's announce
13:40: incredible. Hold on. Let me no love for
13:43: the big greatest promoter of all time.
13:46: >> That's what I'm saying. Like we got to I
13:48: know a lot of people do Coke and they're
13:49: not that entertaining.
13:50: >> No, no, no, no, no, no. That's that's
13:52: charisma.
13:52: >> You got to have something in you for the
13:53: Coke to bring it out.
13:54: >> That's why they won't let him run for
13:56: president in Ireland
13:56: >> because it'd be that [ __ ] will
13:58: win. Imagine that. That kind of speech
14:00: in Ireland, bro. He could be the he
14:03: could be the president of Ireland
14:04: tomorrow,
14:05: >> bro.
14:05: >> If he wanted to be the president of
14:07: Ireland, if they let him let him let him
14:09: go on the campaign tour, let him talk
14:11: like that in front of packed arenas,
14:14: >> it's over. Come on our podcast, Connor.
14:16: We'll make it happen,
14:17: >> bro. Who else can
14:18: >> we control the election? Just the three
14:20: of us.
14:22: We need to charge more for ads. We need
14:24: to charge more for ads since we can
14:25: decide the fate of the free world. Only
14:27: us. Nothing else happening.
14:30: >> You know, it's funny. He's like,
14:30: anything bad happens, it's our fault.
14:32: And then like Trump will like stop a war
14:34: in the Middle East and nobody's going,
14:35: "Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Schultz.
14:37: Thank you, Theo."
14:39: >> Do you think he stopped?
14:40: >> Credit for the good.
14:41: >> I think that's a fazy stoppage. I think
14:44: that uh I think that he stopped I think
14:48: he stopped what Israel is doing to Gaza
14:50: for the time being
14:51: >> and he got hostages back.
14:53: >> He got hostages back. So it's like
14:56: the but the way I look at it is like I
14:59: think that you need to give him credit
15:01: and I I like calling balls and strikes,
15:02: bro. If he does something I don't like,
15:03: I'm going to call it out. And then
15:04: people get upset at that [ __ ] for some
15:06: reason. They're like, "Oh, but how did
15:07: you not know this was going to happen?"
15:08: I was like, "Oh my god, do we not do we
15:10: not understand that when you vote for
15:12: somebody, they're going to do some
15:12: things that you don't like and they're
15:14: going to do some things that you do?"
15:15: Like again, there's no nuance on the
15:16: internet, but like I don't think that
15:19: this is what BB Netanyahu wanted. I
15:23: don't think that and I think it's what
15:25: Trump wanted. I think Trump went I want
15:28: to stop it. And you could make arguments
15:30: for like, oh, he wants to get the Nobel
15:31: Peace Prize or whatever the [ __ ] you
15:32: want to say, but like he wanted it. And
15:35: he created a situation where BB was
15:38: dependent on him. Trump's more popular
15:40: in Israel than BB. And if BB wants
15:42: re-election, he's got to play nice with
15:44: Trump.
15:44: >> Really?
15:45: >> 100%.
15:45: >> Trump is more popular in Israel than
15:47: Netanyahu.
15:48: >> 100% 100%. Whoa.
15:49: >> There was an article in the New Yorker
15:50: that just said about this. It's like
15:52: BB's I know. I know.
15:53: >> But like but like BB's political future
15:55: is dependent on Trump.
15:56: >> Wow.
15:57: >> 100%. So it's like
15:59: >> that's crazy.
15:59: >> They created a situation and then he
16:01: just went around everybody. Like it's
16:03: almost like he's better at government
16:05: over there where you're dealing with
16:06: dictators
16:07: >> because he could just say, "What do you
16:09: want?"
16:10: >> And then they go, "Uh, like uh some some
16:12: planes." He goes, "All right, we got
16:13: planes. I'll give you some planes. All
16:14: right, you do this for me." It's that
16:16: transactional and it works on the global
16:18: stage in that regard. They got to stop.
16:20: Now, granted, it's a deal between Trump,
16:22: BB, and Hamas.
16:24: >> It could go wrong,
16:25: >> right? But it seems to me the only
16:28: person that got what they wanted out of
16:30: it, it's not what Hamas wanted. It's not
16:32: what BB wanted. And BB's folks in
16:35: government, it's what Trump wanted.
16:37: >> So I'm like, you got to give credit to,
16:39: you know, credit is due. In my personal
16:40: opinion, it's like he doesn't he doesn't
16:42: want any more bloodshed. He wants to say
16:43: that he stopped this thing.
16:45: >> Let him rally off some dubs.
16:46: >> Did you see Israel bombed Lebanon today?
16:49: >> Well, you got to stop that one.
16:51: >> Yeah,
16:52: >> they did. Where? It bombed a weapons
16:55: depot. Crazy fireball. Oh my goodness.
16:58: >> All right. Well, we got to put a stop to
17:00: all that [ __ ]
17:01: >> Um, this was uh what is what did what
17:04: did they say? Anything about the target,
17:05: Jamie? You should see it. You should see
17:07: the video. It's nuts because it's a
17:09: munitions place.
17:10: >> Oh, so you get the extra.
17:12: >> Oh, look at that.
17:13: >> Yeah, that's Michael fireball, man. I
17:15: mean, that's crazy.
17:18: >> Yeah.
17:18: >> And there's a bunch of secondary um
17:21: explosions on the ground, right? So
17:23: those secondary explosions are all the
17:25: munitions going off.
17:27: >> Hezbollah.
17:29: >> Yeah.
17:29: >> Um incident marked the latest strikes
17:31: and almost unbroken pattern of daily
17:33: Israel attacks on Lebanese territory
17:35: since the ceasefire deal was struck in
17:38: November of 2024 after more than a year
17:40: of fierce hostilities accumulated in two
17:42: months of open war.
17:43: >> Yeah.
17:45: >> Yeah, man.
17:47: >> Bro.
17:48: >> Anyway,
17:49: >> it's like your little brother that keeps
17:50: dragging you into fights. It's like,
17:52: bro, come on.
17:53: >> Right. Like, who are we beefing with?
17:55: What are we doing?
17:56: >> Yeah.
17:57: >> But also, you really don't want him
17:59: having all those weapons either.
18:01: >> I don't really know to be honest with
18:02: you. But like, I do think that we're
18:04: allowed to have an opinion on there's
18:05: this idea like we're not allowed to
18:06: opinion. It's like we're fun and [ __ ]
18:07: We get an opinion on it. Plain and
18:08: simple.
18:08: >> The idea that we shouldn't have an
18:09: opinion is ridiculous. You should always
18:11: have opinions. Your opinions could be
18:12: uninformed. They're still your opinions.
18:15: Like, you're allowed to have opinions.
18:16: You're allowed to have the dumbest
18:17: [ __ ] opinion in the world and other
18:18: people go, "That's a really dumb
18:20: opinion." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're
18:21: allowed to have opinions.
18:22: >> This idea that you shouldn't talk about
18:23: opinions, like shut the [ __ ] up.
18:25: >> Yeah, this is the whole point. This is
18:26: why we get to say whatever the [ __ ] we
18:27: want.
18:28: >> Well, it's it's a secret thing.
18:29: >> Us and Saudi Arabia.
18:31: >> Yeah. It's
18:32: >> just It's just us in Saudi Arabia, by
18:35: the way. We are the We are the best
18:37: ones, by the way. Yes.
18:38: >> Yeah.
18:39: >> What was that experience like going over
18:40: there,
18:41: >> man? It was so It was like I've
18:42: performed in the Middle East before, so
18:43: like you've done a bunch of shows out
18:45: there.
18:45: >> Yeah. Like it's just not Everybody make
18:46: this big thing like, "Oh my god, it's
18:48: going to be so crazy, blah, blah." I I
18:49: post them. I told you I like I posted my
18:51: set cuz people were saying all this [ __ ]
18:53: like, "Oh, I didn't change anything and
18:54: all these comics were doing." I'm like,
18:55: "All right, well, I'll show you. This is
18:57: what I did.
18:58: >> You tell me if I took it easy on them.
18:59: You tell me if I cared." And people made
19:01: all this [ __ ] big deal about like,
19:02: "Oh, they made you sign a list of things
19:04: you can't say." And it's just like, do
19:06: you really think the [ __ ] king cares
19:08: about the clowns coming to the festival?
19:10: Like, you think he really gives a [ __ ]
19:12: about that [ __ ]
19:13: >> No. Like,
19:14: >> well, he would care if it was
19:15: humiliating. It's some middle guy who's
19:17: like, I don't want to get in trouble, so
19:18: I'm going to say they do that [ __ ]
19:20: anywhere you go. They did that [ __ ] when
19:21: I was in UAE. I didn't [ __ ] look at
19:23: it. I'll never look at a list once in my
19:24: life. I'll perform wherever my fans are.
19:26: I don't give a [ __ ] Like, that's my
19:27: take on it is like
19:28: >> I'm going to perform wherever my fans
19:29: are. I don't give a [ __ ] what their
19:30: governments do. I'm going to perform for
19:32: my fans. Simple as that. That's what it
19:33: is. I just happen to have fans over
19:34: there. There are a lot of guys who like
19:36: can't perform outside of Brooklyn who
19:37: are like, I would never go. It's like no
19:38: one was asking you,
19:39: >> right? No one's inviting you.
19:41: >> Yeah.
19:42: >> You also don't have to,
19:44: >> right? But it might be different if you
19:45: got like tons of DMs of people going,
19:47: "Please come out here. We've been
19:48: watching your special. We've been doing
19:49: all these things." You're like, "Oh,
19:50: that'd be really awesome to come perform
19:51: for you guys."
19:53: >> But the idea is you're being paid by a
19:55: dictator.
19:55: >> Good. My fans get a discount.
19:58: >> It's not like they didn't It's not like
20:00: they didn't have to pay for the tickets.
20:02: You know what I mean? Like there's just
20:03: a little added on top from the family.
20:05: >> Yeah.
20:06: >> You know what I mean? Yeah.
20:07: >> So, it is what it is, bro. This comic
20:08: out there said the funniest It's [ __ ]
20:10: up. He said the funniest [ __ ] now. I was
20:11: like, "Yeah." So, what do you think
20:12: about them, you know, you know, chopping
20:13: up that journalist? He goes, "They
20:15: chopped up one journalist so women can
20:16: drive."
20:21: >> Oh, no. I was dying, bro. I was, bro, we
20:25: were out there. It was so funny. That is
20:27: true. Like NBS, that's not true. What
20:30: you said, but it is true that NBS is the
20:33: reason why we drive. Yeah.
20:34: >> The other guy, the NBM was the guy who
20:37: was going to be more conservative,
20:38: >> but yeah. So it's like it's uh it was so
20:41: funny because like when we were out
20:42: there like there are chicks driving now
20:44: obviously. You know what I mean?
20:45: >> How are they doing?
20:46: >> Well, we got in one accident, two female
20:48: drivers.
20:52: >> They're new at it,
20:53: >> bro. So, it's like we got out the car
20:55: and you could see the look on their
20:56: faces, the parts of their faces you
20:57: could see and uh and you could they were
21:00: just like, "Damn, man. Everybody's going
21:02: to know." And it was uh but it's funny.
21:04: They said, um, they get the girls all
21:07: like Chinese cars. And I was like, why
21:09: do they why do they drive the Chinese
21:10: cars? And they're like, it's the
21:11: cheapest cars. They're just figuring
21:13: this [ __ ] out.
21:14: >> Started driving. Like imagine you're 50
21:17: and you just start driving tomorrow.
21:19: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
21:20: >> Like that's crazy.
21:20: >> No, they figured that [ __ ] out. But
21:21: yeah, it was fun, man. I don't know.
21:23: Like I don't even know if people care
21:25: because like you see this [ __ ] online
21:27: and like everybody feels like they need
21:28: an opinion on it. I even see comics
21:30: going like a lot of people have been
21:31: asking my opinion on so like I need to
21:33: give your [ __ ] opinion.
21:34: >> Have they really been asking like what
21:36: are you talking about?
21:36: >> Nobody's asking a [ __ ] opinion. It's
21:37: almost to the point and then I ask like
21:39: any regular people they're like they
21:41: don't really care because they're
21:42: watching like the six best tennis guys
21:44: perform in Saudi this weekend
21:47: >> and golfers and race
21:51: and boxing and everything. So it's just
21:53: like how much do you and they just put a
21:55: billion dollars into like a Hollywood
21:57: movie studio. Uh
21:58: >> oh. So I'm I'm like I'm screenshotting.
22:01: >> Everybody who talks I'm screenshot cuz
22:03: I'm waiting for you to do a movie with
22:04: it.
22:05: >> I'm waiting. I'm petty. I don't forget.
22:07: You forgive. You know what I mean? You
22:09: have somebody on your pod who had
22:11: someone on their pod talking [ __ ]
22:12: >> You're better than me.
22:14: >> Yeah.
22:14: >> You're better than me.
22:15: >> You got to be able to just let things
22:17: go.
22:18: >> I can't wait for Gavin Newsome to go on
22:19: Bad Friends.
22:22: >> I can't I I I want to see the I'm
22:25: distancing myself from the Rogan Sphere
22:26: tour. Uh, that's
22:27: >> first stop. Bad friends.
22:29: >> That's hilarious.
22:30: >> I thought that was corny.
22:33: >> Yeah,
22:34: >> I thought it was corny.
22:35: >> Yeah, we talked about that. Um, I don't
22:38: know. It is what it is.
22:40: >> You You're more forgiven.
22:41: >> There's no time that you should in my
22:44: mind, no time that you should be
22:46: spending on these kind of conflicts.
22:48: It's like pointless. It's wasted energy.
22:50: >> Yeah, but it's fun to talk some [ __ ]
22:52: Well, you know, when when I decided um
22:54: to talk [ __ ] about Marin was after the
22:56: Theo thing. After Theo kind of went off
22:59: the rails. Yeah.
23:00: >> And Theo went off the rails right after
23:02: Marin put him in his special.
23:04: >> Yeah.
23:05: >> You know,
23:05: >> you know, my issue with that joke in the
23:07: special, it was just like what Twitter
23:09: says.
23:10: >> Uhhuh.
23:10: >> It wasn't even like a creative.
23:13: It was just like literally what every
23:15: tweet would say.
23:16: >> Meanwhile, it's one of the funniest
23:17: jokes he's ever made because it's
23:19: oppression of a really funny guy.
23:21: >> Exactly. Yeah, you got to rely on Theo's
23:24: impression.
23:24: >> Yeah.
23:25: >> Yeah. But yeah, I just I don't know.
23:27: Like my my whole thing with Marin is
23:28: like I think that like people outside of
23:30: comedy have this idea of him, but like
23:31: everybody inside comedy knows he's a
23:33: piece of [ __ ] and they've known it for
23:34: years. And like this is not just like
23:36: us.
23:37: >> No.
23:37: >> You know, like there's that I mean
23:39: there's that great like John Stewart
23:40: story about their thing which is like I
23:42: don't even know if people know but like
23:44: John took that MTV show and Maron like
23:46: ripped him for how you sell out you
23:48: pieces. How dare you do it. And then
23:50: when John leaves to go do another show,
23:51: guess who takes over that same show?
23:53: >> Marin.
23:55: That's who we're dealing with. So it's
23:56: like it's one of these things where like
23:58: inside the game, we all know who the
24:00: pieces of [ __ ] are and we just go,
24:01: "Ugh." We roll our eyes.
24:02: >> This is how Mark Maron works. He sees
24:05: you get successful. He feels bad. So he
24:08: comes up with a reason why you're bad.
24:10: >> Exactly. And he'll find some like
24:12: intellectualization of it to justify his
24:14: bitterness.
24:14: >> You want to know what he hit me with
24:16: with fear factor?
24:17: >> What he said? You're taking jobs away
24:19: from comedians who would be writing on
24:22: sitcoms.
24:24: >> How? How? What? How?
24:25: >> Because I'm doing a a reality show. So
24:28: the reality show which was number one
24:30: show in the country would have would
24:32: have if it didn't exist.
24:33: >> That was a Trump moment right there.
24:35: >> Number one.
24:37: >> It was the best. But when the idea was
24:41: that somehow or another this is stealing
24:44: it's like the dumbest justification
24:46: where you didn't you didn't look at it
24:48: at all. You didn't you didn't have any
24:50: insight. You didn't like step back and
24:52: go okay let me reflect on this. It
24:54: doesn't make any sense because it
24:56: doesn't make any sense because those
24:57: people are doing a job outside of comedy
24:59: just like me. I'm doing a job outside of
25:01: comedy too.
25:01: >> But you can't even give it any credence.
25:03: It's like the guy every criticism he has
25:05: he's guilty of. like he's like, "How
25:06: dare you have presidents on the pod and
25:08: have fun with them?" And it's like, "You
25:09: had Obama before anybody. You started
25:11: this.
25:12: >> You didn't ask Obama anything about
25:14: [ __ ] drone strikes or whatever." And
25:15: frankly, and I love Obama. I just want
25:17: to point that out. Like I I actually
25:18: really do. And I know there's probably
25:19: [ __ ] up [ __ ] that anybody in power got
25:21: to do, but like I genuinely I liked him.
25:23: >> I love him as a statesman. I think he
25:25: was the best statesman we've ever had.
25:26: >> You just felt good. You just felt good.
25:28: >> We felt like he's a great representative
25:29: of America. He's as intelligent and
25:32: measured as anybody who's ever held the
25:34: office. better than any like Clinton
25:37: when he was young was really good. I
25:39: think Obama was another level. I think
25:41: Obama was another level.
25:42: >> Anyway, so but it's like yeah, you did
25:43: it. You did the thing. You did the exact
25:45: same thing. Talk all this [ __ ] about
25:47: like oh
25:48: >> we just had him on recently. He didn't
25:49: ask him anything.
25:50: >> Of course he did.
25:51: >> Anything like like would you have
25:54: repealed the Smith Munt Act?
25:56: >> The consequences of
25:58: >> No, not cuz we know cuz we're inside.
26:01: >> Well, this is the thing. He like
26:02: positions himself as this intellectual,
26:04: but he doesn't say anything interesting.
26:06: >> Yeah, I think
26:07: >> there's nothing that guy ever says where
26:09: I'm like, "Wow, that's a unique insight.
26:11: [ __ ] never. It's childish with a good
26:15: vocabulary."
26:16: >> No, I think he's a he's think he's a
26:17: smart guy. I think he's probably smarter
26:18: than he is funny. I think that drives
26:20: him crazy.
26:20: >> Yeah, but he's also too obsessed with
26:23: himself to be reflective enough to
26:25: understand like why other people don't
26:27: like him. Wait, you're saying the guy
26:28: who talks by himself for 5 minutes
26:30: before the president comes on 15
26:33: minutes. If it wasn't for fast forward,
26:34: there would be no Marus.
26:36: >> Yeah.
26:36: >> And that was the rant.
26:38: >> Yeah, exactly.
26:39: >> Just the rant. Imagine.
26:40: >> But anyway, so it's just like
26:42: >> the rant is what killed the show, by the
26:43: way.
26:44: >> If he didn't have the rant, he probably
26:46: wouldn't be like bottom 200.
26:48: >> I think I think better shows came out.
26:50: And it's just like that's just the
26:52: nature.
26:52: >> There's that, too. But it's also like
26:53: he's not that good at talking to people.
26:55: He's not nice.
26:56: >> So, I don't know. My my whole feeling
26:57: about it is just like we know like we
26:59: know who the pieces of [ __ ] are in our
27:01: industry, right? And like we're aware of
27:03: it because we've seen them from the
27:04: jump. Like if if I'm sitting down with a
27:06: comedian, right, and like this is why I
27:07: don't [ __ ] with a lot of them is like if
27:09: you immediately start talking [ __ ] about
27:11: your co-host to me when I'm sitting down
27:13: with you, like I I got to start
27:15: questioning your integrity a little bit.
27:17: It's like that's your boy. Like why are
27:18: you shit-talking your boy to me?
27:21: >> Right.
27:21: >> So it's Yeah, but you saw this
27:23: >> a lot of these guys, man. You saw it.
27:25: You saw a lot of these guys. You saw and
27:27: they and it's and it's like I think a
27:29: lot of this is just salvation to be
27:31: honest with you.
27:32: >> Yeah.
27:32: >> It's like they see an internet trend and
27:35: I think that like like right now there's
27:37: this internet trend. Oh the [ __ ]
27:38: manosphere blah blah blah blah. And I
27:40: think I see guys who you were very
27:43: generous to, like you lent your
27:45: platform, your millions of followers,
27:46: the biggest show on the planet, helped
27:48: them make tons of money, help them
27:50: really have success, build their own
27:52: platforms. And now they see like an
27:53: internet trend about like the
27:55: manosphere, whatever. And I see guys
27:56: like trying to create a little
27:58: separation.
27:59: >> I see all of a sudden it's like, yeah,
28:00: you you you use this guy to make
28:02: millions of dollars and get all these
28:03: fans, and now you see online outrage,
28:05: and you're like, oh no, that's them.
28:06: That's not me. It's like you had no
28:09: problem being part of the Avengers. You
28:11: know what I mean? You had no problem
28:12: being in the photos. You had no problem
28:14: before. And now you see a little [ __ ]
28:16: going on. You separate. I feel like
28:18: that's the moment you double down for
28:19: your boy.
28:20: >> That's the moment you go, I know that
28:21: person. What people are saying about him
28:23: isn't real
28:25: >> and you refute that. That's what I would
28:27: do.
28:27: >> I mean, whatever.
28:28: >> There's a lot of cowards out there in
28:29: the world.
28:30: >> And it's just they're scared.
28:32: >> They're scared. And this is like a a
28:34: time of real attacks. Like in the past,
28:38: like say in the '9s or something like
28:40: that, if you supported Andrew Dice Clay
28:42: or something like that, like you didn't
28:43: really get any heat. Nobody cared. You
28:45: could do an interview and you're like, I
28:47: think DICE is hilarious. You wouldn't
28:48: like lose sponsors. You wouldn't the
28:50: nothing would happen. But now there'll
28:52: be like an organized campaign to try to
28:54: take you out.
28:55: >> Oh yeah. With bots.
28:56: >> Yeah.
28:56: >> Like people don't even think the bots
28:58: thing is
28:58: >> Well, you pay for it. You can hire them.
29:00: >> And why? And there's other countries
29:01: that are involved in that [ __ ] too. Not
29:03: to be like it's not even conspiratorial,
29:04: but like I think a little bit that's
29:06: what the comedy festival, the Riad thing
29:07: was a little bit
29:08: >> probably
29:09: >> because it was so peculiar. It's like
29:11: they're so they're already so entrenched
29:13: into like our entertainment and then all
29:14: of a sudden we went out and I think
29:16: sometimes something gets a little bit of
29:17: buzz and then people, you know, send the
29:19: bots to create a little friction or
29:21: separation
29:22: >> and
29:22: >> and then people hop on board.
29:23: >> Exactly. They pile on.
29:25: >> They have to see there.
29:26: >> I had Palmer Lucky on the podcast
29:28: yesterday and he was discussing that. He
29:30: was discussing these like organized
29:32: campaigns and how it's affecting
29:33: people's minds.
29:34: >> Well, it's just that this is part of
29:36: like what China does to keep us at each
29:39: other's throats. Yeah. It's it's
29:40: literally a strategy.
29:41: >> And people are so stupid that they're
29:42: going to let a 30-cond TikTok dictate
29:45: their opinions about the world.
29:47: >> Like, they're not factchecking. They're
29:49: not doing anything about it. Like, and
29:51: the there are people that like consider
29:52: themselves journalists that will do it
29:54: >> 100%.
29:55: >> Like, there's this this little Nepo
29:57: baby. He's like Kennedy's grandkid or
29:59: some [ __ ] like that that was like
30:00: talking all this [ __ ] about and one
30:01: thing he said is that like
30:03: >> cuz I called him a neo baby cuz he never
30:05: had a job. I don't care if your dad's
30:06: but if you never had a real job like you
30:08: know like like what the why are you
30:10: telling people who have real jobs what
30:11: to do and how they should vote and what
30:12: they should do with their lives like you
30:14: don't know how much the elector Yeah.
30:15: You're a child.
30:17: >> And then he goes oh Schultz is you know
30:20: married into the Turner dynasty like my
30:22: my wife's made name is Turner. He thinks
30:25: that my wife's family is like Turner,
30:28: Ted Turner. Like this is this is a guy
30:32: who his job is journalist.
30:35: >> He calls himself a journal. And he
30:37: couldn't even do the bare minimum Rick.
30:38: He saw another Tik Tok that said
30:40: something that's completely untrue. The
30:42: Turner dynasty. I mean, it'll be nice.
30:46: [ __ ] Let's go, Ted. Cough it up if
30:48: you've been hiding. But like, this is
30:50: the level. This is the level of
30:51: discourse. And then that [ __ ] hits Tik
30:53: Tok and then people start repeating
30:54: things like there's just so much fake
30:56: [ __ ]
30:56: >> Well, the dumb thing is you were already
30:58: rich when you got married. Like like how
31:01: much
31:01: >> The dumb thing is not her family.
31:03: >> It's not her family. But even if it was
31:05: if you married the child of a rich
31:07: family, you were already rich. Like it
31:09: didn't it was stupid. Yeah,
31:11: >> it's stupid. Like this is why he made
31:12: No, no, no, [ __ ]
31:14: >> He was already famous. Shut the [ __ ] up.
31:16: >> It just it just doesn't make any sense.
31:18: And you see these narratives, they take
31:20: hold and then they just become reality.
31:22: >> Uhhuh.
31:23: >> And and it's one of those things like
31:24: you can't fight the internet.
31:26: >> No.
31:26: >> You know, it's just like people say
31:28: things and then they just become
31:31: >> they like just become reality. It's like
31:33: fascinating. And like I've seen it
31:34: happen with you and then I think that
31:36: there's like there's obviously these
31:38: different levels in comedy. So you don't
31:39: imagine it happening to yourself and
31:41: then you're in it.
31:42: >> Uhhuh.
31:43: >> And Yeah. It's just wild, man. It's just
31:46: wild. Like the like there's there's this
31:48: there's these people who say that like
31:50: uh I remember when I bought back the
31:52: special and then I then I sold it.
31:54: >> Yes.
31:54: >> And then they're like he sold and then
31:55: he put it out on YouTube. It's like
31:57: there's literally a video of me going if
31:59: you can't afford it, steal it.
32:01: >> And if you can't figure out how to steal
32:03: it,
32:04: >> I'll put it up on YouTube.
32:07: >> It's like I can't be more clear,
32:08: >> right?
32:09: >> But it's a way funnier narrative to be
32:10: like, "Oh, this is what happened. Blah
32:12: blah blah blah blah." It's just like
32:13: guys like
32:14: >> he got your money and then he put it up
32:15: for free on YouTube and he's got more
32:17: money.
32:17: >> I'm saying steal it if you can't afford
32:19: it and then I'm going to put it up on
32:21: YouTube in the future and it's like what
32:23: do I do in that situation?
32:24: >> Listen man, I went to see SpaceX launch
32:27: uh on Monday. Jamie and I went down
32:29: there. We went down to South Texas,
32:31: watched the rocket launch.
32:33: >> It's one of the most impressive things
32:36: I've ever seen in my life. I got a tour
32:39: of the SpaceX facility. One of the most
32:42: impressive things I've ever seen in my
32:45: life. I sat with Elon in the command
32:48: studio where they're going over the
32:50: rocket as it's flying to Australia. We
32:54: watched it live using Starlink
32:56: satellites, 60 different [ __ ] cameras
32:59: of every sing monitoring every single
33:02: aspect of the internal pressure of the
33:05: chambers and all these different things.
33:06: >> And then I was watching a video of
33:08: someone calling him a [ __ ] I think
33:10: he's a [ __ ] This guy was like, I
33:11: think he's a [ __ ] His rockets keep
33:13: blowing up. Like the rockets are
33:15: literally blowing up on purpose because
33:17: they're testing the parame they're
33:19: testing what are the tolerances of these
33:21: structures.
33:22: >> Oh, so they're pushing the limit to
33:24: >> 100%. He's like, we know we're going to
33:26: blow some up, but they they can produce
33:29: rockets so much faster than NASA.
33:33: And you think he's a [ __ ] but it
33:35: doesn't matter. It's not real. Like I I
33:37: saw comedians say that he was a Nazi.
33:40: >> Yeah.
33:40: >> He's a Nazi because he said, "My heart
33:42: goes out to you." Yeah. He because he
33:44: did the thing that they all do.
33:46: >> Right. Right. Right. It look It looked
33:48: crazy.
33:49: >> Looked crazy.
33:49: >> It looked crazy. But
33:50: >> looks very aggressive.
33:51: >> Doing the thing doesn't make you a Nazi.
33:53: >> No.
33:53: >> Believing what Nazis believe makes you a
33:55: Nazi. Yeah.
33:55: >> And I think that's the separation. I
33:57: think they're like
33:58: >> once you have an idea of somebody, you
34:01: can't wait to confirm it. And the
34:03: internet is full of 30second clips that
34:06: will confirm whatever you believe
34:08: >> and they will be sent right to your
34:09: phone. Like this is what I've been
34:11: thinking about recently. It's like
34:12: remember when um like cigarettes came
34:14: out or even like fast food when we were
34:15: growing up was fast food unhealthy? It
34:17: was just food.
34:18: >> It was just food.
34:19: >> We just ate it as food. This generation
34:21: knows that it's unhealthy. They don't
34:22: stop eating it, but at least they're
34:24: aware, right? They know the nutrition
34:25: facts. We're about to go through what I
34:28: think is like that with internet
34:31: content.
34:31: >> Yes. If a video gets sent to your phone
34:34: from an account you don't follow, the
34:36: immediate reaction should be like, "This
34:38: is a Big Mac." I'll indulge in it, but
34:40: it's not nutritious,
34:42: >> right?
34:42: >> Do you know what I mean? Like, there's a
34:43: reason why it's being sent, right? It's
34:45: going to confirm whatever biases I have.
34:47: It's either going to scare me or it's
34:48: going to make me really happy. There's
34:49: going to be this dopamine release.
34:51: >> And I think that we need to start
34:52: realizing that. Like, the second I see
34:54: any video on the internet now outside of
34:56: peanut butter, peanut butter, I love
34:59: love my man peanut butter. But like I'm
35:02: I'm immediately skeptical. I'm like,
35:04: "What exactly is happening here? Why is
35:06: this being sent to me? What is this
35:08: confirming?" Like that's my immediate
35:10: reaction. I think that the next
35:12: generation, at least kids, will
35:13: definitely look at things like that. I
35:14: hope
35:15: >> I think a big factor is podcasts
35:18: >> because we talk about this stuff and
35:20: they might not be talking about it with
35:22: their friends. Their friends might not
35:23: know. And so when we're talking like
35:25: don't trust everything. You need to
35:27: understand a lot of this is outrage
35:29: farming. They're doing it on purpose and
35:32: they're doing it specifically to try to
35:35: get us at each other's throats. Don't
35:36: fall into it. Don't be a sucker.
35:38: >> Don't be a sucker. You know,
35:40: >> or there's people that are like they're
35:42: just doing it because they need views
35:44: and clicks,
35:46: >> you know? Like this is
35:47: >> and that's something that I realized is
35:49: like there's this like there's this like
35:51: beautiful little time in comedy where
35:52: like you're everybody's hero, right?
35:54: Because you're the unsung hero. Like
35:56: everybody feels like they they're the
35:57: only ones that know about you.
35:59: >> Mh. and they are the only ones that know
36:01: what you're doing and like everybody's
36:03: riding and then you do eventually some
36:05: people if you're lucky enough or
36:06: fortunate enough to transcend it where
36:07: like your name can be part of pop
36:09: culture and the benefit of that is like
36:12: you get to provide for your family. You
36:14: get to live your dreams. You get to do
36:15: [ __ ] arenas. It's amazing. There's a
36:17: negative that we have to put up with.
36:18: I'm not [ __ ] complaining. It's
36:19: awesome. But like the negative is your
36:21: name can be attached to any story. Your
36:23: pictures attached to any story. Like,
36:26: bro, I saw there was a video on the
36:28: internet where it was like Joe Rogan uh
36:31: ripping on his guests and it's a picture
36:32: of me and you and I'm like, when the
36:34: [ __ ] did this happen? Like, I watched
36:37: the video, we ain't even in it together.
36:39: >> Yeah. All the time.
36:40: >> It's it's you and it's you and like what
36:42: the guy who was didn't understand like
36:44: if if you're born a man or a woman, I
36:46: forget what it was.
36:47: >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
36:48: >> It's But it's like that guy's face isn't
36:50: going to get clicks,
36:51: >> right? me and you
36:53: >> homies going at it is gonna get right.
36:55: So it's like that is the internet in a
36:58: microcosm.
36:59: >> And I'm not saying that like you need to
37:02: I'm I believe maybe more personal
37:04: accountability. Like I'm not saying we
37:05: should make the internet change what it
37:06: is. The internet's going to be what it
37:07: is. We just got to be aware of what
37:09: we're consuming. Don't ban fast food.
37:11: Just be aware that when you eat a Big
37:14: Mac, you might not feel as good as when
37:15: you eat a [ __ ] chicken salad.
37:16: >> It's not healthy. But have fun. You want
37:18: to watch like Colombian assassinations
37:20: and grainy security video cameras?
37:22: >> Have at it.
37:22: >> Have at it.
37:23: >> I like it too.
37:24: >> I like to watch I I mean I look at my
37:26: phone. It's mostly like assassinations
37:28: and tits.
37:28: >> Bro, it the the the amazing thing about
37:30: it is like nobody thinks they have
37:34: radical thoughts because they're so
37:36: normalized,
37:38: >> right,
37:38: >> by every video confirming your thought,
37:41: >> right?
37:41: >> So it's like I used to think like and
37:44: feet was unique.
37:46: You know what I mean? Right. I scroll on
37:49: Instagram for a little bit and I'm like,
37:51: we all into this. There's refined
37:53: cultural people out there. And I think
37:55: that's it with every political idea.
37:57: That's it with every cultural idea. We
38:00: are 100% rewarded in what we think and
38:02: then people say [ __ ] out loud and then
38:04: it becomes like a crazy
38:07: >> story. Yes.
38:09: >> Yeah. I honestly I think that's what
38:10: happened to a lot of folks with with
38:12: Riot is that like there was a lot of
38:14: comics that were in that like stage
38:16: before pop culture and they got their
38:20: first experience of like internet
38:21: backlash because they're like
38:23: >> like Jessica Kershan
38:24: >> Jessica who's [ __ ] hilarious. I'm
38:26: sure you've got like like literally
38:28: hilarious.
38:28: >> I've had her on a bunch of times. I love
38:29: her.
38:30: >> Lesbian,
38:30: >> very funny.
38:31: >> Jewish,
38:32: >> super nice person.
38:33: >> Apparently crushed out there.
38:34: >> Yeah, I heard she got a standing
38:35: ovation.
38:36: >> Crushed.
38:36: >> Yeah.
38:37: >> Okay. Um,
38:39: and like to me I'm like I've maybe made
38:41: a different view of these things. It's
38:43: like I think that like western culture
38:44: is so addictive like once you get taste
38:46: of this [ __ ] like this is what you want.
38:47: And I think there's a version of looking
38:49: at this thing where like in 10 years
38:50: later they go yeah we need to we need to
38:52: have more of this and we need to have
38:53: more people making fun of us and we have
38:55: more people making fun of themselves and
38:56: this is this is beautiful like cultural
38:57: exchange that maybe that's like looking
38:59: through rosecolored glasses but that's
39:00: how I look at these things.
39:01: >> Yeah. Um, and I'm going and then she's
39:05: like, she's experiencing that backlash
39:06: cuz she never has. And I think she goes,
39:08: I toiled in obscurity for decades being
39:10: hilarious but not having a fan base. I
39:12: finally got one. And then you feel that
39:13: internet backlash. You think that's real
39:15: and you're like, oh my god, I'm going to
39:16: lose everything that I've always
39:18: dreamed. I need to address this.
39:20: >> When in reality, if you put your head
39:21: down for two weeks,
39:23: >> goes away.
39:24: >> Nobody will care.
39:25: >> Yeah.
39:25: >> No, there's a Chris Rock's quote.
39:27: >> What does he say? I've heard somebody
39:29: say something similar that he says
39:30: >> I thought you told me that actually. I
39:31: thought you said like I just don't look
39:33: at my phone.
39:33: >> Well, I don't I don't. But Chris's take
39:35: on it was wait two weeks before you
39:37: respond to anything. Yeah. And most
39:39: likely to blow away. If it's still
39:40: around after 2 weeks, then address
39:42: >> make a comedy special about it.
39:44: >> He made it a year.
39:47: >> He stewed. He stewed on that [ __ ] He
39:50: kind of milked it in the best way
39:52: because if you think about it, he got to
39:54: tour that thing for a year and everybody
39:56: was showing up to those shows cuz
39:57: they're like, "Oh, I need to say
39:59: >> people were filming it though. That was
40:01: the problem." Like some people pulled
40:03: out their [ __ ] phone and ruined the
40:04: fun.
40:05: >> Yeah.
40:06: >> But I get why he's like, "I might as
40:07: well tour this [ __ ] I'm not going to
40:08: just address it right now. Let's
40:09: >> 100%." Also, cook it.
40:12: >> Like, make sure that bit is [ __ ] You
40:14: got the right seasoning in there. You
40:16: get that [ __ ] thing over the stove.
40:18: Make that Sunday sauce, baby. Let's go.
40:20: Make that ragu. Let's go. Yeah.
40:24: >> It's a It's a It's a weird time for
40:25: comedy, man.
40:26: >> It's a fun time for comedy. Ari Shafir
40:29: said it best. What did he say? He said,
40:30: "Comedy's dangerous again."
40:32: >> Yeah,
40:33: >> this is what Ari loves. He loves chaos.
40:36: >> That silly [ __ ] He loves when
40:38: things go. I love chaos, too, but not
40:40: that much. He [ __ ] He likes when the
40:43: city burns down cuz he'll put on a
40:44: backpack and go to Asia. He gets to just
40:47: dip. He really he dips. He's dipped
40:49: right now. I don't know where he is.
40:50: He's He's hiding somewhere in the world.
40:52: He'll he'll dip for like 3 4 months.
40:54: Throws his phone away. He ruins our text
40:56: message thread because we got to protect
40:58: our parks and he turned he turned the
41:00: whole thing green. So I opened up a new
41:01: text message thread. It's called [ __ ]
41:03: >> Ari.
41:05: So it's just me and Norman and Shane.
41:07: >> It's like he's he's a legit wild boy.
41:11: But he said it right. He said uh
41:13: comedy's dangerous again. And it is
41:15: dangerous. But it's only dangerous if
41:17: you let it be. Like for for people like
41:20: Jessica, I wish she'd talked to me. I
41:22: would have said, "Don't listen to
41:22: anybody. Don't read the comments. [ __ ]
41:24: those people."
41:25: >> You what you're doing is the Lakota
41:29: people had a term called the Hayoka. And
41:32: a Hayoka was a special member of society
41:34: that made fun of everybody. It was an
41:37: important part of their culture. He made
41:40: fun of the chief. He made fun of the
41:42: chief's wife. He made fun of everyone.
41:44: And the idea was if you couldn't mock
41:47: something that it was [ __ ] And so
41:49: he was stress testing. Yeah. All of
41:51: these different things. So that was a it
41:53: was called a sacred clown. That was
41:54: their definition of what a hayoka is.
41:56: >> This this is like built into American
41:58: culture. It's like
41:59: >> American culture specifically.
42:00: >> It's like why I want Trump to do the uh
42:02: what's that little like news
42:05: >> Yeah. White House press correspondenc.
42:07: It's like why I want to do it because
42:09: look, we have a relationship with
42:11: government in America that from its
42:13: inception is antagonistic.
42:15: >> Yes.
42:16: >> Right. Like we fought the war because
42:18: we're like you don't get to tell us what
42:19: to do. And then we set up systems of
42:21: government that basically stopped one
42:23: person from telling us what to do and
42:25: then we had this great thing where once
42:27: a year the guy who's in charge, the most
42:29: powerful guy gets humbled in front of
42:31: all of us. And it's this beautiful thing
42:34: that is like uniquely American. I know
42:37: there's somebody right now is in France.
42:38: We've been doing this forever. Shut the
42:39: [ __ ] up. It to me it's uniquely us. It's
42:42: our thing. And I love the idea of like
42:44: humbling our heroes. It's why roast
42:46: work. It's why seeing like Tom Brady
42:48: whoever it was like on the roast it and
42:51: the more powerful, the more successful,
42:54: the more that they've got, we like that
42:56: kind of humbling because we have that
42:57: antagonistic relationship with, you
42:59: know, the people in charge or even our
43:00: heroes. It's a beautiful [ __ ] thing.
43:03: And afterwards, we kind of embrace those
43:06: people even more. We appreciate that you
43:08: were taken to your knees, if you will,
43:09: in that moment.
43:11: >> Did you ever see when Jeff Ross and
43:13: Comedy Central, they roasted Trump?
43:15: >> Yeah. Yeah. I've seen obviously clips
43:16: from
43:16: >> He had a conversation with Trump.
43:18: >> What he said?
43:18: >> He said, "Hey, when they're going after
43:20: you, just laugh. You got to laugh. You
43:22: got to smile. If they look over at you
43:23: and you got a serious look on your face,
43:25: it's not good." He's like, "Okay, yeah,
43:27: you're right." They realized he's like,
43:28: "Yeah, you got to
43:29: >> you got to laugh. You got to let it go.
43:31: >> You got to let it go.
43:32: >> And you know that's the White House
43:34: press correspondence. You got to be able
43:35: to let it go.
43:36: >> Let it go. Let it rip. Make fun of him.
43:38: Make fun of everybody. Make fun of the
43:40: press corp. But it's this beautiful,
43:41: humbling thing.
43:42: >> But the thing about Trump is like the
43:44: White House press correspondence thing
43:45: is literally why he became president in
43:48: the first place.
43:48: >> Yeah, I remember that
43:49: >> when Obama was like, "Here's one thing
43:51: that I am that you'll never be president
43:53: of the United States."
43:54: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
43:58: >> I mean, if that's how it works, Trump
43:59: will never have free healthcare.
44:02: >> You know, you just got You'll never do
44:04: that. I promise you.
44:05: >> Yeah.
44:06: >> You'll never stop every war,
44:07: >> right? That's what you have to do.
44:08: >> Yeah.
44:08: >> You have to challenge them.
44:10: >> But yeah, I just I think I think those
44:12: things are really important. I just
44:13: think they're important like cultural
44:14: institutions for us specifically. It
44:16: doesn't work the same in other places
44:18: that don't have that kind of
44:19: antagonistic relationship with
44:21: government,
44:22: >> right?
44:22: >> There are places that they just do not
44:24: have it. like they actually have like a
44:25: really grateful and appreciative
44:28: relationship
44:28: >> or their government doesn't have any
44:31: free speech law
44:33: >> like England like what what what
44:34: England's going through right now is
44:36: crazy.
44:37: >> That's the thing I was trying to tell
44:37: people is like when people keep talking
44:39: about free speech it's like stop acting
44:40: like that's the norm. We're the unique
44:42: ones.
44:42: >> Yes.
44:43: >> In Canada they don't have free speech.
44:45: >> They have free freedom of expression or
44:48: something like that.
44:48: >> Yeah. But it's carved out with like
44:50: certain things like hate crimes or hate
44:52: speech. I mean, hate speech is weird
44:55: because it's very subjective.
44:56: >> Who defines it was hate.
44:57: >> Exactly.
44:58: >> Right. So, it's like and I remember when
45:00: them truckers were protesting, they were
45:01: freezing the accounts like
45:03: >> there's just
45:05: Yeah. It's just a uniquely, you know,
45:08: American thing which is amazing and we
45:10: need to like protect it at all cost
45:12: >> 100%. And we need to protect it and
45:15: propagate it through the world. We And
45:17: that's why we should get upset when
45:19: England starts cracking down on free
45:20: speech because that's a disease. And if
45:22: that disease spreads and if England
45:24: falls and all a sudden England is
45:26: essentially a totalitarian dictatorship,
45:28: if they're a totalitarian dictatorship,
45:31: we're in real [ __ ] trouble, man.
45:32: >> I don't think we are. But I get what
45:34: that I get that logic. Like I get this
45:36: idea that like things aren't right now.
45:39: >> No, no. I mean like even I hear what
45:40: you're saying like and and trends do
45:42: build steam and then people ask for it
45:44: and they see other things working. I get
45:45: that. Like I think that makes sense like
45:47: >> functionally in the world, you know what
45:49: I mean? But like my [ __ ] is like I care
45:51: about American free speech. That's what
45:52: I go for. I'm an American. I want us to
45:54: be all good. If the other countries want
45:56: to get on board with it, all right, get
45:57: on board with it. That'd be great.
45:58: >> The problem is they bring that [ __ ] over
45:59: here. Just like when people let me tell
46:01: you something in the n like 2015 16 when
46:04: I started talking [ __ ] about uh college
46:06: campuses and people like what are you
46:08: worried about these kids on college
46:09: campuses with these Marxist ideas? I was
46:11: like they're going to graduate. Like I
46:15: I'm a I'm a person who sees like where
46:17: things are moving, which is why I got
46:19: out of California so early. I was like,
46:21: I see where this is going. You got to
46:22: get the [ __ ] out now. This is not good.
46:24: And I'm like, they're going to get out
46:25: of this school and they're going to
46:27: start working for corporations and it's
46:29: going to flood the country. Nonsensical
46:32: ideas.
46:32: >> They're going to positions of power
46:33: 100%.
46:34: >> 100%.
46:34: >> And these corporations are going to bend
46:36: to whatever, you know, makes them the
46:37: most money.
46:38: >> Which is why it's dangerous if England
46:40: goes. If England goes, if England like
46:42: completely falls, like they just passed
46:44: the digital or they're trying to force
46:46: the digital ID on people and they have
46:48: arrested 12,000 people for social media
46:51: post and some of them are just critical
46:53: about the amount of immigration that's
46:55: coming in and they're putting them in
46:57: jail for this.
46:57: >> Yeah.
46:58: >> So, if that is a trend and that starts
47:01: spreading through Europe and they lock
47:03: those people down because those people
47:04: don't have guns, they don't have free
47:06: speech laws, they don't have any of the
47:07: things that protect us.
47:08: >> Yeah. So you're worried about them in
47:10: terms of it becoming a trend and then
47:12: impacting us?
47:12: >> Exactly. Because if it becomes a trend
47:14: for the entire world and we're the only
47:16: and they're like the problem the
47:17: consequences of free speech is an unsafe
47:20: society. We have to protect the
47:23: marginalized groups. You know how that
47:26: ends? That ends with a military
47:28: dictatorship. And all those people that
47:31: help them get into play, all those
47:32: leftists, they all get killed because
47:36: they're the people that are going to
47:37: resist the government having this kind
47:40: of tyrannical power that they help them
47:42: get in the first place. That's what
47:43: Castro did. That's what they all do.
47:45: They use the leftists to get into
47:47: positions of power and then once they
47:49: take over, they kill everybody. [ __ ]
47:52: you.
47:52: >> Okay, that's a fair argument that that
47:54: you're that you're bringing out how it
47:56: could impact us. It's a wolf with a
47:58: grandma outfit on.
47:59: >> Yeah. Yeah.
48:00: >> That's what it is.
48:01: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's big mama's house.
48:03: >> Yeah. It's
48:07: >> Tyler Perry presents
48:08: >> Marxism for Americans.
48:11: >> But no, I I hear that cuz I guess my
48:13: initial thing on initially was like, yo,
48:15: if you guys want free speech, fight for
48:16: it. Like we fought for it. Like people
48:18: shed blood for it. They constantly are
48:20: fighting for it non-stop. You guys go
48:22: fight for it.
48:23: >> Vote those people out first. Don't [ __ ]
48:26: I don't I don't mean that
48:27: >> that's what the problem is like saying
48:28: that
48:29: >> if I say that then they'll think I meant
48:30: before like America like as a a nation
48:34: state has has constantly fought to
48:36: maintain this thing and went through
48:38: incredibly difficult times to do it
48:40: because it's like a core tenant to our
48:41: belief and our identity and if other
48:43: countries want that they have to put in
48:44: that same effort through politics. I'm
48:46: not saying go be violent or anything
48:48: like that but
48:48: >> right but the way we fought for it was
48:50: like we fought for it.
48:51: >> It's like yeah
48:52: >> banged out.
48:53: >> It got rough.
48:54: >> But we're wild boys. That's why I'm not
48:55: worried about like in like we are the
48:57: collection of the craziest people on the
49:00: planet.
49:00: >> Bro, England used to be the wildest
49:04: [ __ ] on earth. One island took
49:06: over most of the world
49:08: >> and now they're just arguing with wigs
49:10: on like what the [ __ ] happened? Do you
49:13: know like does this happen in every
49:15: country? Like
49:15: >> you see the guy with a wig that
49:16: sentenced the guy to 20 months of
49:18: custodial service because he was
49:21: complaining about immigrants. Have you
49:22: ever have you seen that video?
49:24: No,
49:25: >> but it is the craziest video because
49:26: it's 2025 or 2024
49:29: >> and it's a guy wearing a wig who's
49:32: sentencing a guy for a 20 month sentence
49:35: who just made a post criticizing
49:37: immigrants.
49:38: >> Yeah. Well, what was he saying about the
49:40: immigrants?
49:40: >> Well, he was talking about these gangs
49:42: of geyser coming in from the places they
49:45: bomb the [ __ ] out of cuz that's the real
49:47: be upset at all.
49:48: >> Yeah.
49:48: >> Why would they be worried about it?
49:50: >> The Listen, you got to listen to this
49:51: guy. See if you can find that video of
49:53: that guy because it's him wearing the
49:55: wig is so crazy
49:57: >> and while he's saying something that's
49:58: so insane in the age of the internet and
50:01: it's on TikTok like this is like
50:04: >> before they cut stuff out of it.
50:05: >> Oh, I don't care what they cut out of
50:07: it. Like just him saying it. I don't
50:09: care what context it is. He's reading
50:11: off the guy's tweets
50:13: >> and then saying because of what you said
50:17: I have no choice but to sentence you to
50:20: jail. Yeah.
50:23: >> People to participate in attacks on a uh
50:26: hotel housing asylum seekers. Comments
50:29: that encouraged was over comments that
50:31: encouraged every man and their dog
50:33: should be smashing the [ __ ] at a
50:34: Britannia hotel. Uh the judge quotes one
50:38: of his parlor posts responding to a user
50:40: who said, "If I'm down, if you are a
50:42: lad, so that he was starting." Oh, so he
50:45: was inciting violence.
50:46: >> Yeah. I mean, don't tell people to go
50:48: hurt people
50:49: >> out of the video. Your motivation became
50:50: clear when you informed the police you
50:52: promoted the idea of attacking the
50:53: Bratannia hotels as a result of anger
50:55: and frustration immigration problems in
50:56: the country. So what was his post
50:58: though? Oh this is you want to say that
51:01: you do not want your money going to
51:02: immigrants who rape our kids and get
51:04: priority. The judge later said the
51:06: overall effect your post was to incite
51:08: violence toward the building and
51:09: therefore towards those in the hotel. It
51:11: was not only the refugees and asylum
51:13: seekers who are likely to be affected by
51:15: your post but also the hotel managers,
51:16: the night porters and those who worked
51:18: within the hotel. That's actually
51:19: reasonable that in that case I see what
51:22: you're saying. Um I don't Yeah. So
51:24: incitement to violence is illegal even
51:26: in America, right? Like it's like it's a
51:30: different thing than just freedom of
51:31: speech.
51:32: >> Yeah.
51:32: >> So that's that is different people to
51:35: hurt people.
51:35: >> The guy wearing the wig.
51:37: >> Yeah. It makes it look insane. It's like
51:39: what? What? What? Like you have to have
51:41: a special outfit for me to take you
51:42: seriously because if you're just like a
51:44: regular guy and you're saying uh you
51:46: were inciting violence and then the guy
51:48: go yeah but do you know what the people
51:49: in that hotel did but let me tell you
51:51: what they've done. Let me tell you those
51:53: they've raped underage girls. They have
51:55: grooming gangs. They live there. They're
51:57: getting priority. They're getting paid
51:59: our money. They're on the dole. Like you
52:00: could you would have a conversation.
52:02: This guy's yelling out to the abyss on
52:04: Parlor because he doesn't know where
52:05: else to go. And this guy's go, "Well,
52:07: the solution to that is I put you in a
52:09: cage."
52:09: >> Yeah. Yeah.
52:10: >> Look at his wig. Put it Put the Put the
52:13: thing on so you can hear this.
52:15: >> Off the tax us hardworking people earn
52:18: when it could be put to better use.
52:22: Come over here with no work visa, no
52:26: trade to their name and sit down and
52:28: doss and then there's more people being
52:32: put out homeless each year.
52:34: they get top band priority on housing.
52:40: You went on to say that you did not want
52:42: your money going to immigrants who quote
52:46: rape our kids and get priority end
52:50: quote.
52:52: Although you said that you had no
52:54: intention of carrying out any act of
52:56: violence, there can be no doubt that you
53:00: were inciting others to do so.
53:04: Otherwise,
53:05: why post the comment?
53:09: You expressed remorse, but by that time
53:12: it was too late.
53:15: For the offense of publishing written
53:17: material in order to stir up racial
53:20: hatred, there are sentencing guidelines
53:22: which I must and will follow.
53:25: The maximum sentence is seven years
53:28: imprisonment.
53:31: In my judgment, this comes close to harm
53:34: category one. However, for the purposes
53:37: of this sentence, I will treat you as
53:40: falling into category two since there
53:43: was no direct encouragement towards
53:47: activity which threatens or endangers
53:50: life.
53:52: However, you fall towards the top of
53:55: category 2.
53:58: For a category 2A offense, the starting
54:01: point is two years imprisonment with a
54:03: range between 1 and four years custody.
54:07: In mitigation, I take into account your
54:10: plea of guilty for which you will
54:12: receive full credit of one-third
54:15: following your earlier admissions.
54:18: I take account of the contents of the
54:20: references from your mother, friend, and
54:23: employer. These can only be of limited
54:27: value in the current circumstances, as
54:30: can the contents of the presentence
54:32: report.
54:34: I take account too of your expression of
54:37: remorse, your lack of convictions which
54:41: are racially aggravated.
54:44: As is recognized on your behalf, this
54:46: offense is so serious that an immediate
54:50: custodial sentence is unavoidable.
54:55: The sentence that I pass has been
54:57: reduced by onethird to reflect your
55:00: guilty plea. The sentence is one of 20
55:02: months imprisonment
55:05: in response.
55:06: >> This is we get This is tricky because
55:08: the guy did incite violence, but
55:11: >> yeah,
55:11: >> you shouldn't be doing it,
55:13: >> you know.
55:14: >> Yeah,
55:14: >> you shouldn't you shouldn't be doing it.
55:15: But
55:15: >> I think a lot of people are very naive
55:17: of what the impact of a post if they're
55:19: an anonymous person.
55:20: >> Yeah.
55:21: >> You know, they're very naive of how
55:22: that's going to be perceived. And, you
55:24: know, they're just venting like they
55:25: would be venting at the barber shop,
55:27: right? If they're hanging out at the
55:28: barber shop, like, [ __ ] those people.
55:30: Someone should go over there and kick
55:31: their ass. Yeah.
55:32: >> Yeah.
55:33: >> Yeah.
55:35: >> Yeah. People are looking for People also
55:38: looking for community. They're looking
55:40: to be feel like validated in their
55:43: beliefs. Like
55:44: >> it also pretty it is pretty wild that
55:46: these people are coming over to Europe
55:49: and even to America as a direct result
55:51: of military campaigns.
55:53: >> So that that's the other thing I found
55:54: so funny is that like
55:55: >> they're not going over there because
55:57: where they live is awesome
55:58: >> and like there's reasons why it's not
56:00: awesome
56:02: >> and there needs to be a little
56:03: accountability for that. Like I heard
56:05: even like British comedians, they were
56:07: like, you know, [ __ ] on uh you doing
56:09: the the Saudi or even like shows in the
56:12: Middle East and they're like they they
56:14: employ people at slave wages, etc. to
56:17: build it. And it's just like guys, I
56:19: wonder what happened. And I wonder what
56:20: country did something to India back in
56:24: the day that created a scenario where
56:26: those people might have to leave their
56:28: country to get a job to afford to
56:31: provide food for their whole families
56:33: back in India. I I wonder what country
56:35: might have plundered India and stripped
56:38: it of all of its wealth for [ __ ] I
56:40: don't even know how long that created
56:42: this scenario. Like you can't just
56:43: remove yourself from that.
56:45: >> Have you ever read that book about that
56:46: one corporation?
56:47: >> Yeah. What is it? the uh that that
56:49: basically that that turned India into a
56:52: country like a factory essentially.
56:53: Yeah. Well, what was it? Was that not a
56:55: >> God I forget the name of I read the book
56:57: a while ago.
56:58: >> I saw like a YouTube video on this.
56:59: >> Well, I should say I listened to it. I
57:01: listened to the book a while ago.
57:03: >> I can't remember the name of the book.
57:05: >> You got to hold this down.
57:06: >> It is a crazy story though. And that's
57:10: England. So you guys, your ancestor did
57:14: it. You know, it's the chickens have
57:16: come home to roost.
57:17: >> Yeah. It doesn't mean that you have to
57:19: be okay with it, but you have to at
57:20: least be understanding of like how this
57:22: scenario was created.
57:23: >> Yeah.
57:25: >> Yeah.
57:25: >> But it's also clearly they're letting
57:27: them in and they're letting them in. And
57:29: the thing is like, oh, we've got to do
57:31: something to stop this violence. Now we
57:32: have rise of East India Company. That's
57:34: it. The anarchy. The relentless rise of
57:36: the East India Company. Crazy book.
57:39: >> Oh, dude.
57:40: >> And it's all it's all real. Oh, like
57:43: what [ __ ] Liupole did to the Congo.
57:45: >> Oh god.
57:46: >> It's like 25 million people.
57:47: >> Oh god. Yeah, the Congo thing is nuts,
57:49: man. Because a bunch of these settlers
57:51: thought that they were going to live in
57:52: the Congo and they set up these
57:54: beautiful mansions
57:54: >> and the forest just
57:55: >> it just swallowed it up.
57:57: >> Yeah, it's amazing.
57:58: >> Yeah. Just let them know you're not
57:59: welcome.
58:00: >> One of the truly wild places in the
58:02: world.
58:02: >> There's still images of these places,
58:04: these like uh Elizabethan, is that the
58:07: type of architecture that are just
58:08: completely swallowed
58:10: >> swallowed by the jungle. And what's
58:11: crazy is the wildest part of the world
58:14: is where we need to go to get the
58:16: minerals to make the batteries in your
58:17: cell phone.
58:18: >> Maybe that's why it's the wildest.
58:19: >> But it No, no, no. It was always wild.
58:21: It's wild because it's like
58:22: inhospitable. I mean, they have the
58:24: largest chimpanzees in the world there.
58:26: They have those bondo apes there in the
58:28: Congo in this place called Beey. They
58:30: have this one subset of chimpanzees
58:32: that's really large and they call them
58:34: lion killers. They have two different
58:36: types of chimps that the locals describe
58:39: tree beers and lion killers.
58:41: >> Lion killers, they sleep on the ground
58:43: like gorillas. They don't give a [ __ ]
58:45: They don't have to hide in trees. Like,
58:47: come get me, [ __ ] They're like six
58:48: foot tall upright chimpanzees. Like, you
58:51: know that Michael Kiteon book, Congo. Do
58:53: you ever read? He They made a movie.
58:56: >> Cton's Jurassic Park.
58:57: >> Yes, Kiteon made a movie. It was kind of
58:59: a goofy movie about the Congo. In the
59:01: Congo, in the movie, there's these like
59:03: gray chimpanzees that are huge.
59:06: >> And obviously that's not real, but
59:08: that's what they're based on. But it's
59:09: based on this one subset of chimpanzees
59:12: that actually has a crest on its skull
59:14: like a gorilla.
59:15: >> So, you know, gorillas have such large
59:17: mandible because all they eat is
59:18: vegetables that they have this, this is
59:20: the Michael Kiteon movie. It was kind of
59:22: goofy. Look at these big silly gorillas.
59:26: >> Oh wow.
59:27: >> And they [ __ ] this dude up. They look so
59:29: bad.
59:29: >> Oh wow. But the book is a lot better.
59:32: But in reality, there's a thing called a
59:34: Bondo ape. And there's a I guess he is a
59:38: Swedish or Swiss wildlife photographer
59:40: named Carl Arman who became obsessed
59:42: with this animal and started catching it
59:45: in camera traps. And there was photos of
59:47: these guys at See if you can find the
59:49: photo of the guys at the airport where
59:51: they shot one. So these guys, look at
59:53: this. These guys, but the That's not it.
59:55: No, no, no. The one the one above it.
59:57: No, no, no. Yeah, that it. That's it.
59:59: Look at the size of that [ __ ] thing.
00:02: >> Look at the size of that thing. It's
00:04: like a gorillasized chimpanzee.
00:07: And there's different photos of them on
00:10: camera traps where they're
00:12: >> Holy [ __ ] No. No. That's a That's an
00:14: >> That's an orangutan, I think.
00:15: >> No.
00:16: >> Or a gorilla.
00:17: >> Um, but they have video of these things
00:20: now. They know that they're a subset of
00:23: chimpanzees. That's not a really big
00:24: one. That's it looks like just a big
00:26: chimp.
00:27: But the idea is that this place is like
00:30: rugged. I mean, this is a is leopards
00:33: and
00:34: >> like Joe, there's a lot of rugged
00:35: places. I I just feel like when there's
00:37: a place that's resource rich, there's
00:38: going to be a lot of conflict around.
00:40: >> Oh, 100. Well, that's the Amazon, too.
00:42: Same kind of situation. Like really wild
00:44: pristine jungle and then people are
00:46: hacking it down because they're they
00:48: want to make cattle farms and, you know,
00:50: log. But like isn't it to the best
00:53: interests of the parties that are
00:55: invested in the resources there for
00:57: there not to be social cohesion? Like
00:59: it's easier to manage if everybody's
01:01: fighting because if there is social
01:02: cohesion you have a a situation like
01:04: what is it Rhodesia which just basically
01:07: goes hey we're going to be a great
01:08: country by the way and we're going to
01:10: you know take back our mining rights and
01:12: we're going to make sure that we own our
01:13: resources and then we're going to
01:14: educate our people and we're going to
01:15: have a high GDP. Like there's a pretty
01:17: amazing story that's tied into it. And
01:20: like we they're like, "Okay, well, we
01:21: can't let that happen in the Congo. We
01:22: got to keep this [ __ ] a little bit uh
01:24: chaotic."
01:25: >> Yes.
01:25: >> Because aren't there like especially
01:27: with the uh the battery stuff, aren't
01:29: there like only nine different mines for
01:31: that? And like China owns seven or
01:33: something.
01:34: >> Something like that. I don't know how
01:35: many mines there are, but China owns a
01:37: bunch of them. And you know that's
01:39: Sedarth Cara wrote a book on it. He came
01:41: in and he got undercover footage that
01:43: shows these people with babies on their
01:45: back pulling cobalt out of the ground
01:46: with like a mask over their face like a
01:48: bandana to protect themselves from the
01:50: toxic fumes.
01:51: >> I'm performing that next week.
01:53: [Laughter]
01:56: >> I look forward to David Cross's blog
01:57: about it.
02:01: >> My favorite post that people were not
02:03: invited and don't have to even go, but I
02:05: really wouldn't. It's like
02:07: >> he probably wouldn't. David probably
02:08: wouldn't, you know, but there's a thing.
02:11: >> We'll see.
02:12: >> Yeah. I remember when David Cross wrote
02:14: a letter to uh Larry the Cable Guy. He
02:17: was [ __ ] on Larry the Cable Guy and
02:19: like an open letter
02:21: >> and then the like the bottom of the post
02:23: it was like from New York City. He
02:26: signed it like from New York City.
02:28: >> David C. like
02:29: >> I saw him I saw him getting upset that
02:31: Norman farted on his podcast
02:33: >> that Mark Norman farted.
02:34: >> Yeah. And like telling him that a fart
02:36: isn't funny. And I'm like, once I see
02:38: you do that, I'm just like,
02:39: >> well, first of all, Norman is funny.
02:41: Period. So if he's funny and he also
02:43: farts, okay, who cares?
02:45: >> Well, also farts are funny. And Norman
02:46: said it. He's like, that wasn't a joke.
02:48: That was not funny. And Norman goes, a
02:50: sound came out of my butt.
02:54: >> That's always funny. It's funny when a
02:57: baby does it. It's funny when an adult
02:58: does it. It is the funniest. What are we
03:00: [ __ ] talking about here? Like,
03:01: obviously,
03:02: >> it's funny. It's funny because you're
03:03: like, "Oh, no."
03:04: >> Yeah. And then he just dropped the nword
03:06: on the pod and uh not Norman cross. And
03:08: then Norman's like, Norman's like, "You
03:10: going to cut that out?" He's like, "No,
03:11: you don't have to cut it out. It has the
03:12: ah." And it's like, "Oh, well, thank
03:14: you, white guy. You tell us what n-words
03:16: we're allowed to say."
03:17: >> Yeah. Yeah. You can tell us where the
03:19: comedians are not allowed to perform,
03:20: but you tell you tell the black
03:22: community what n-words you're allowed to
03:23: say.
03:24: >> Yeah.
03:24: >> It's kind of hilarious.
03:26: >> You know, there's a hard nword in Bob
03:29: Dylan's Hurricane.
03:32: I got a song, The Hurricane. Ruben
03:34: Carter.
03:34: >> I got a little hurricane story you want
03:36: to hear.
03:36: >> Really?
03:36: >> Yeah.
03:37: >> You met that guy?
03:38: >> No. My uh my dad interviewed his lawyer.
03:43: >> Ruben Carter's lawyer?
03:44: >> Yeah.
03:45: >> Really?
03:45: >> And uh his lawyer says uh his lawyer
03:49: says uh off the record. My dad goes,
03:52: "Yeah." He goes, "He did that [ __ ]
04:02: He probably shouldn't even say that. I
04:04: probably shouldn't even say it right
04:05: now, but the lawyer just tells my dad
04:07: just made it all racial.
04:10: >> He did it.
04:11: >> Yeah, that's hilarious.
04:12: >> Who knows? Maybe the lawyer is wrong.
04:14: >> Or maybe he's right.
04:16: >> Maybe he's right.
04:18: >> Good song.
04:19: >> Didn't he have a movie about it?
04:21: >> Yeah.
04:22: >> Oh, yeah. And in the movie, there's like
04:23: a really racist cop that's like
04:26: targeting him through the whole movie.
04:27: And apparently the guy was a total
04:29: construct.
04:30: >> Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There
04:31: wasn't like one cop who was like really
04:34: interested who was chasing him. They
04:35: used it as a vehicle to push the story
04:38: line which I always think is gross when
04:41: you're doing something about a
04:42: historical person.
04:43: >> Yeah.
04:44: >> I think that's gross.
04:46: >> Yeah.
04:48: >> You have an obligation though. If you're
04:49: making a movie about a historical
04:51: person, you can't have a character that
04:53: moves your plot along that didn't exist.
04:56: >> I mean,
04:57: >> because now you're changing history for
04:58: a lot of dumb asses who don't read a
05:00: book. But I mean that's what the people
05:01: who
05:01: >> which is most of us
05:02: >> that's what the people who [ __ ]
05:05: >> you know dictate what history is you
05:07: know I was talk I was talking to
05:09: >> sort of but they're just doing it to
05:10: make the movie better.
05:11: >> Yes. Exactly. They're doing it that's
05:12: their their their responsibility is to
05:14: make money. Yeah.
05:15: >> I was talking to Shane about this and we
05:16: were just talking about like like uh
05:18: ancient history. He's like I don't [ __ ]
05:19: with the ancient history. And I'm like
05:21: why not? He goes
05:22: >> nobody really knows what [ __ ]
05:24: Augustus said to this guy. Like people
05:26: just making it up and like writing it
05:28: down afterwards. is like you really kind
05:30: of barely even know what happened 50
05:32: years ago or like a hundred years ago.
05:34: And I think that's one of the reasons
05:35: why if you get into like antiquity, it's
05:37: so interesting because it's just been
05:38: like mythologized.
05:40: >> Yeah.
05:41: >> So everything is so much more remarkable
05:43: and amazing and the people are so much
05:45: more resilient because they've been
05:46: retelling the story for 2,000 years. If
05:48: you want people to listen to that story,
05:50: you got to make it interesting.
05:51: >> Yeah. No doubt. Yeah. You got to make it
05:54: interesting. And the the thing is also
05:56: you have to remember it and then you
05:58: have to tell it to people before anybody
05:59: even figures out how to write things
06:01: down. Yeah. So they're they're saying it
06:02: for a thousand years before they even
06:04: write it down.
06:05: >> That's my issue with the Bible.
06:07: >> You know, I think the Bible is a
06:09: historical account of something.
06:12: >> Yeah.
06:12: >> And I think uh one of the real problems
06:14: with the Bible is as you get older and
06:17: older with the Bible, things get weirder
06:20: and weirder. So it's like what was the
06:22: original story? Like if you get to the
06:23: Dead Sea Scrolls, the Dead Sea Scrolls
06:25: are bananas. And there's stuff in the
06:27: Dead Sea Scrolls like if you get like I
06:29: had Rep Luna, you know, Anna Paulina
06:31: Luna on the podcast and she was talking
06:33: to me about the book of Enoch. She goes,
06:34: "You ever read that?" And I was like,
06:36: >> "It's not included in the canonized."
06:37: >> Here's why. Because of rabbis, a bunch
06:39: of rabbis said it didn't align with the
06:41: Torah. And so they yanked it out. But
06:42: it's an original biblical text or at
06:45: least a part of the religion religious
06:47: text that they found in the sea in the
06:50: um Dead Sea Scrolls in Kuman. When they
06:52: found those clay tablets, the book of
06:54: Enoch was in there as along with the
06:56: book of Isaiah.
06:56: >> We need to call West.
06:57: >> The book of Enoch is nuts. I talked to
06:59: myself about it.
07:00: >> That's the giants.
07:01: >> It's not just the giants. It's aliens.
07:02: It's about the watchers who came down
07:04: and mated with human beings. Bro, I'm
07:06: reading it right now.
07:07: >> I know you are. I already know.
07:09: >> Bananas. It's She told me to read it.
07:12: And she was like, she's like, "You have
07:14: to read this. It's nuts."
07:15: >> And what did Wes have to say? Did he
07:16: said there's a legitimacy?
07:17: >> Yeah, it's it's 100% legitimate tech.
07:20: It's legitimate religious text,
07:23: >> but they decided not to include it
07:25: because it's so nuts and because it goes
07:26: against like what the writings of the
07:28: Torah.
07:28: >> Right. Right.
07:29: >> So, but it was a few rabbis, just a few
07:31: rabbis decided like if the book of Enoch
07:33: was included in the Bible,
07:35: >> that it changes the whole story of the
07:37: human race.
07:37: >> Decide what goes into that kind of
07:40: power. They just decided that it doesn't
07:42: get included in the canon.
07:43: >> This is a long time ago.
07:45: >> But yeah, I mean, this is like around
07:46: Well, who decided the canonized Bible,
07:48: right? This is like Constantine time,
07:50: right?
07:50: >> Well, that's for the New Testament,
07:52: right? And so with the Old Testament,
07:53: you've got a Wesoff would be the guy
07:55: that
07:56: >> Enoch was included in the Old Testament.
07:58: >> Oh, it's old as [ __ ]
07:59: >> Not only is it old as [ __ ] when they
08:01: found it, they also found a version of
08:03: the book of Isaiah. This is one of the
08:05: things that Wes Huff told me that was
08:06: really fascinating. They found a version
08:08: of the book of Isaiah that is verbatim
08:11: the same as a version of the version of
08:14: Isaiah that was a thousand years later,
08:16: which they thought was the original.
08:18: Unbelievable.
08:19: >> That's what's crazy. For 1,000 years,
08:22: they maintain the exact same story
08:24: verbatim, writing it down and passing it
08:27: on. And the book of Enoch's in there
08:28: with that.
08:30: >> And the book of Enoch is bananas.
08:33: >> Yeah, I think we might need to do a
08:34: little deep dive on the book of Enoch.
08:35: The book of Enoch, it says that these
08:38: watchers came down and mated with human
08:41: beings and created a race of giants
08:44: called the Nephilim who consumed and
08:47: destroyed everything in front of them.
08:49: Gee, that sounds like people.
08:51: >> Yeah,
08:51: >> that sounds a lot like people. If you
08:53: got a bunch of little chimps and then
08:54: you got these tall aliens and they make
08:57: a [ __ ] 7 foot man, a Viking who's
09:00: like chopping off heads and lighting
09:02: villages on fire and has this undesira
09:05: unstoppable desire for conquest. That's
09:07: humans.
09:08: >> The Nephilim sounds like humans.
09:10: >> Like exactly. So they're not giants. We
09:12: are the giants. And then what if the
09:13: other
09:14: >> they might have been giants? Like it's
09:15: it's hard to say.
09:16: >> But what if the other folks were the
09:17: Neanderthalss
09:19: >> because there was a time where we're
09:20: living together, right?
09:21: >> Right. Well, they were here before us
09:22: allegedly. Well, this the question is
09:24: like where did humans come from? This is
09:26: the real question. This is a really
09:28: interesting show on PBS right now called
09:30: Human where this lady goes on this
09:32: journey of uh it's like she's uh what is
09:36: her degree in? Is she an anthropologist?
09:39: I believe she's an anthropologist but um
09:41: or maybe some sort of biologist, but she
09:42: she goes over the history of the human
09:45: species. It's very interesting. the
09:47: migration from across the Bearing Land
09:51: Bridge into North America, when the
09:53: oldest people started coming here, where
09:55: they how they came here. Fascinating
09:58: stuff. But that's one of those things
09:59: like if you think ancient history is
10:02: filled with horseshit like ancient human
10:07: history like of the the human uh that's
10:09: the woman's name. I don't want to [ __ ]
10:10: up her name. Ella Al Shamahi and um it's
10:16: on BBC and PBS. Really good show. I just
10:19: started watching it. She's a
10:20: paleontologist. Gree in genetics and
10:22: taxonomy and biodiversity. Um but
10:26: >> they just found recently a human skull
10:29: that pushes the date of humans back
10:32: another 500,000 years.
10:34: >> Yeah.
10:34: >> So it's like all they know is what they
10:37: find in the fossil record. So fossil
10:39: records
10:43: in like 2010 like what's this total new
10:47: branch of the human tree
10:48: >> it's called Dennis
10:49: >> Dennis Oovven Dennis yeah they found
10:51: like a bunch of teeth I think in Asia
10:53: and they're like what the [ __ ] is this
10:54: and then so or maybe it was Russia. Um
10:57: so there's that. There's the one that
10:59: they found in China. The big head
11:01: people.
11:01: >> Yeah that's the real recent that's real
11:04: recent. I forget what that one's called.
11:06: We've done this a million times, but I
11:08: always forget. Um, but so they're always
11:10: finding these new versions of humans.
11:12: So, how many of them really were there?
11:15: But if if there's a bunch of science
11:17: experiments, if aliens are coming down
11:19: and like, let's try them where they're
11:22: short and really powerful and they only
11:24: eat meat. And that's Neander. I was
11:26: like, stop. This one's not a good
11:27: design. This is not a good design. We
11:30: need them a little more frail so they
11:31: invent things cuz the the brutes don't
11:33: invent anything.
11:34: >> Yeah. More frontal cortex. Yeah, the
11:36: well the Neander the Neanderls had
11:38: bigger brains than us. That's what's
11:39: interesting.
11:40: >> So then what part of our brain was
11:42: specifically different?
11:42: >> See, we have a very um we we our idea of
11:48: them is that they were dumb and they
11:50: they couldn't talk and that they were
11:52: brutes, but it doesn't seem like that's
11:54: true. In fact, it seems like they had
11:56: art. They definitely had tools and they
11:58: had language and they might have been as
12:00: smart as us. They were just different.
12:02: And maybe us being a little weaker is
12:05: what made us smarter,
12:07: >> you know,
12:08: >> made us work collectively.
12:09: >> Maybe we're a little more alien. Just a
12:12: touch,
12:12: >> right?
12:13: >> Oh, there's a little too much salt in
12:14: that stew. Let's add a touch more of us.
12:17: And, you know, it seems like the hairy,
12:19: you know, 5'7, 200 lb [ __ ] savages
12:23: with big eyes that might be able to see
12:25: at night cuz it looks like they might
12:27: have had night vision. They have huge
12:29: eyeballs, man. The Neanderthal eye
12:31: sockets way bigger than ours. Their
12:33: skulls thicker. Their bones are more
12:36: dense. They might have had night vision
12:38: like a dog. You know how dogs their eyes
12:41: glow when the headlights hit them? They
12:42: might have had that same ability.
12:45: >> H
12:47: I mean, yeah. I don't know why
12:48: >> that design's too that design's too
12:50: sketchy. They can see at night and then
12:53: they go hunting other people. This is
12:54: too much.
12:55: >> But then we hunted them.
12:57: >> Maybe we might have just [ __ ] them. I
12:59: also heard we [ __ ] him. You had that
13:00: joke, right? You're like, I got a little
13:02: bit of Yeah.
13:03: >> One more time with the monkey.
13:07: >> But in terms of like the stories, like
13:10: all right. You know when you know when a
13:11: comic gets off stage and like they think
13:13: they killed but they bombed,
13:14: >> right?
13:15: >> Like there could be people telling those
13:18: stories in the books. There could be
13:21: >> like meaning what their rendition of
13:23: what happened
13:25: >> is in the book and and that is what they
13:28: truly believed happened. They might not
13:29: even be delusional. I mean they are
13:31: delusional but like that's what they saw
13:32: and that's what happened to them.
13:34: >> And history is always written by the
13:35: winners.
13:35: >> Exactly.
13:36: >> Yeah. Uh my version of the the Bible
13:38: story back in the day I used to have
13:40: this bit about Noah's arc. I was like
13:41: the problem with the Bible is people are
13:43: full of [ __ ] and that story sucks.
13:45: >> Yeah.
13:45: >> Like it's that simple. It's like people
13:47: lie all the time. I've never met any
13:50: politician or any person who's in charge
13:53: of anything that's like really important
13:55: that I would say never lies.
13:57: >> So if you're back then where there's
13:59: zero accountability, zero video, zero
14:02: anything, they can't even write.
14:04: >> Well, that's where the cross referencing
14:05: makes sense, right? It's like that's
14:07: when you got a bunch of different people
14:08: saying the same thing or similar things.
14:10: You start to go, okay, maybe this this
14:12: did happen. But I don't know, there's
14:14: something
14:15: there is something about it, you know,
14:17: like every time I go to church and like
14:18: whatever something about the music I I
14:21: get like emotional and I I've tried to
14:23: like reflect on and understand like what
14:25: it is. I don't know if it's like seeing
14:28: people submit to this power that's
14:30: greater than them. I don't there's just
14:31: like I get this really emotional about
14:34: it. I don't know what the hell it is.
14:36: >> Well, it's a it's a combined shared
14:38: experience that you're having with all
14:40: the people that are in that building,
14:41: too. There's there's something to that
14:43: >> and I'm just like watching Yeah. Like
14:45: maybe it's like maybe I'm a little c
14:47: cynical and skeptical and like I can get
14:50: caught up in
14:52: the raw emotion
14:55: of submitting to something that you
14:57: cannot control. And maybe there's a part
14:59: of me that that really kind of like
15:01: envies that and and wants to in the same
15:03: way that like
15:04: >> but because you have a lot of control.
15:05: >> I don't know if I have any but like you
15:08: have a lot of discipline and a
15:09: personipline. Yeah. Yeah. But a person
15:11: who like yourself does a lot of
15:12: discipline and a lot of work ethic that
15:13: doesn't come without control over
15:15: yourself. Yes.
15:16: >> And you want to submit and give into
15:17: something sometimes.
15:18: >> And there's something beautiful in that.
15:19: And like seeing people do it so
15:20: willingly like I get [ __ ] emotional.
15:22: It's Yeah. And uh
15:26: >> Yeah. I I've I've thought about it a
15:27: lot. I don't know what it is, but it
15:29: happens almost every time. And it's
15:30: specifically with the music.
15:32: >> Yeah. Well, I think music is a very
15:34: powerful thing. I mean, that's when we
15:36: were playing What Up Ganga. I mean, come
15:38: on, man. like we were both on a drug,
15:40: >> dude. There's a uh
15:41: >> your whole body starts moving. You're
15:42: like, "Oh, come on."
15:43: >> I was talking to this guy. He's a
15:44: photographer for um F1. He's been doing
15:46: for like 30 years. And uh he, you know,
15:49: he's been to he literally takes off one
15:51: race a year to go to like this music
15:52: festival. He just loves music. And like
15:54: I asked him if he saw Oasis because you
15:56: know Oasis is is back. And um you're a
15:59: fan of Oasis?
16:00: >> Yeah. Love them. And what's so
16:02: interesting is happening like with with
16:03: Oasis specifically is uh right now we
16:06: don't live in like the monoculture
16:07: anymore, you know, like there's a
16:09: thousand different silos and everybody
16:11: thinks that like the thing happening in
16:12: their world is the most important thing.
16:14: There's no like universal new rock star.
16:16: Like Justin Bieber might have been like
16:18: the last person that was like a musician
16:20: that everybody knows. There's a K-pop
16:22: band that none of us can name the guys
16:24: that is the biggest band in the world.
16:25: Exactly. But like back in the day,
16:27: especially when we were growing up,
16:29: there were bands that were just
16:31: Metallica like performing in Russia, you
16:33: know, like these things were just kind
16:35: of there was a monoculture. And then the
16:37: internet has divided that and that just
16:38: is what it is. But what's kind of
16:40: interesting is I feel like people are
16:42: >> the people who did experience
16:44: monoculture, they're going back to these
16:46: like nostalgic events. It's like why
16:48: existing IP movies are the only movies
16:50: that work, right? It's like they want to
16:52: feel those moments when we all were
16:54: experiencing the same thing at the same
16:55: time.
16:56: >> And like I'm seeing these like Oasis
16:58: clips like all my boy I was on a show
16:59: but all my boys went to go see Oasis and
17:01: like
17:02: >> there's a really interesting thing
17:04: >> the uh the lead singer I guess is it
17:06: null or Liam is the lead singer. I'm
17:08: such like a casual. Doesn't matter. Like
17:11: he's just wearing a tracksuit. Like he's
17:13: just wearing like [ __ ] like the most
17:14: and like to me I'm like that's the most
17:16: rockstar [ __ ]
17:19: Wearing the big flamboyant thing was
17:21: rockstar when everybody was wearing
17:22: suits.
17:23: >> But now that everybody is big flamboyant
17:25: just showing up in a [ __ ] hoodie to
17:28: your [ __ ] stadium show. It just lets
17:29: you know like I'll do whatever.
17:31: >> It's going to be the day when we're
17:32: going to throw it back to you.
17:34: >> 100,000 people at the same time. Wave
17:36: it.
17:38: Yeah. I don't know. I like
17:44: >> Oh my god. What a song.
17:48: >> For real.
17:49: >> We're that good. We're that good at
17:50: singing.
17:51: >> So, what do we have to do? Cut that part
17:53: out.
17:54: >> Yeah. Let's cut that part. We were just
17:55: singing an Oasis song. Unfortunately,
17:57: you can't hear it because of tyranny.
18:00: >> Tyranny.
18:00: >> Fascism.
18:01: >> But it's I don't know. Like
18:02: >> I love comics throwing out that word,
18:04: too. That's a funny one. Throwing out
18:05: fascism. Nobody even knows what that
18:07: [ __ ] word means. That's the most
18:08: annoying thing. Nobody knows the
18:10: definition of that [ __ ]
18:11: >> There's a few people online that are
18:12: like political debaters that know the
18:15: definition of that word. But what it is
18:17: is like you're bad.
18:19: >> That's it. You're bad.
18:20: >> You're an [ __ ] I'm going to call you
18:22: an [ __ ] Political bad.
18:23: >> Yeah. And I want to sound smart when I'm
18:25: calling you an [ __ ] I disagree with
18:26: the things that you're doing. So, I'm
18:28: going to use this word that neither of
18:29: us really know the definition of Cuz if
18:31: you call me a fascist,
18:33: I can't really say I'm not cuz I don't
18:35: know what the [ __ ] that [ __ ] is.
18:38: >> Well, that's the problem with like
18:40: things like Antifa. Well, of course
18:41: you're anti-fascist.
18:43: >> Yeah, it's a pretty good thing.
18:44: >> Yeah. It's like the Patriot Act. I'm a
18:47: patriot. Take my rights.
18:48: >> Yeah. Yeah.
18:49: >> Of course I'm a patriot. Take away my
18:51: rights.
18:51: >> It's like every time like pushes a bill
18:54: that's like the don't hurt women bill.
18:56: >> Yes. You know, but all it is is like tax
18:58: incentives for some group and now
19:00: >> why Trump is so ridiculous. The big
19:02: beautiful bill.
19:03: >> It's just like everything is market like
19:04: why would you're going to veto too big.
19:06: >> It's beautiful. It's big.
19:10: >> But that's the
19:12: >> that's the political game, man.
19:13: >> It's a stupid [ __ ] game, bro. And
19:15: it's a stupid game to base your entire
19:17: personality and identity about.
19:19: >> That is
19:20: >> that's the weird part.
19:21: >> And people do.
19:21: >> Yeah. Oh, it's everything.
19:23: >> People do. and they're they're in a life
19:25: or death struggle every four years like
19:27: settle down
19:27: >> cuz it's a zero- sum game. Power is a
19:30: zero- sum game. Yeah.
19:31: >> Right. It's just like if I think that
19:34: this person is going to completely
19:36: change my life and completely strip me
19:38: of everything I have, anybody that
19:40: supports that person and that person are
19:41: completely evil,
19:42: >> right?
19:43: >> And then once you think someone's evil,
19:44: you can do anything to them,
19:45: >> right? Well, the people that have an
19:47: argument about that are Mexican
19:49: immigrants, especially the children of
19:51: Mexican immigrants who maybe their
19:52: family, maybe they're illegal because
19:53: they were born here, but their parents
19:55: aren't, and they're realizing their
19:56: parents might get kicked out. Like,
19:58: that's scary.
19:59: >> It's [ __ ] up.
20:00: >> That's scary.
20:00: >> I don't like the stuff at all.
20:02: >> It's not just bad. It's bad for them.
20:04: And I don't know how they don't realize
20:06: that this is the worst look ever.
20:08: >> It's It's also a bad look for ICE.
20:12: >> Yeah. Like ICE itself is a very
20:14: important institution. Yeah. Like you
20:16: want to make sure that you have a
20:18: government program that can enforce the
20:20: borders and also like remove people
20:23: >> that are here illegally, especially
20:25: people that are doing criminal activity.
20:26: Like this is an institution that we
20:28: shouldn't malign. This is one that we
20:29: should be proud of. This is a good
20:31: thing. But then when every video coming
20:32: out is like seeing these people being
20:34: like torn their families and all this
20:35: kind of stuff. It's like yeah, you're
20:37: going to have a lot of animosity towards
20:38: these groups. And I know we're having
20:40: this conversation right now. There's
20:41: already people getting a video. Well,
20:42: this is what you guys wanted. And this
20:44: is like,
20:44: >> no.
20:44: >> One of the things I actually talked to
20:46: Trump about is like, how can we not do
20:48: this? Like, what can we do? How do we
20:50: have these people who've been living
20:51: here for [ __ ] 10 years, they're
20:52: paying taxes, like why don't we give
20:54: them a pathway to citizenship? And I
20:55: specifically was like, yo, you own
20:57: hotels. You've employed these people,
20:59: right? You know, they're good people,
21:00: >> right?
21:01: >> Like, if you like, we're entertainers.
21:02: Like, we work in [ __ ] restaurants,
21:04: you know what I mean? Like, we know we
21:05: work with these people and you see them
21:07: grinding. Like,
21:09: >> I don't know. Yeah, that's a very
21:10: frustrating thing.
21:12: >> I think their problem with it is
21:13: multiaceted, but I think one of the
21:16: issues is the way the census works
21:18: because the way the census works, you
21:20: get congressional seats based on the
21:21: amount of people that live in an area
21:23: regardless of whether or not those
21:24: people are citizens.
21:26: >> So, yeah. Isn't that nuts? So, if you
21:29: have uh import, so like say if you
21:31: import uh
21:32: >> how do you prove that they're there then
21:33: if they're illegal?
21:33: >> Because you get n the census doesn't
21:35: check to see your legality. It just
21:37: counts the number of people that live in
21:38: a residence. But how do you count it?
21:40: Like they have to fill the census out,
21:41: right? Why would they fill it out if
21:42: they're here illegally?
21:43: >> Um, that's a good question, but it's
21:46: they know. They know based on
21:48: employment. They know it's like there's
21:49: a bunch of different uh points of of
21:53: data that they get it from. That's a
21:55: good question, but the point is
21:57: >> it doesn't matter if they're illegal.
21:58: So, if you fill out a sentence and
22:00: you're illegal, it doesn't matter. You
22:02: It's It just matters how many people are
22:04: in this area, and that dictates how many
22:06: congressional seats you get. So if you
22:08: can a bunch of people also if you
22:10: encouraged these people to fill out the
22:11: census because it's politically
22:13: beneficial to your party, right?
22:14: Especially if you help those people get
22:16: in. So if you invited them into this
22:18: country, actually flew them out to that
22:20: place, put them up in hotels, that kind
22:22: of deal, then you can get more
22:23: congressional seats because you have
22:24: more human beings.
22:25: >> So that's the argument. Like a lot of
22:27: people chalk it up to uh they're giving
22:28: these people voting rights and it's like
22:30: no, that's not what's happening. They're
22:32: actually increasing the amount of
22:34: representatives you could have in a
22:35: certain district.
22:36: >> They are. But then we went over this
22:38: yesterday. In Tim Walsh's state in
22:41: Minnesota, they actually passed a law
22:43: where they give them driver's licenses
22:45: and they could use those driver's
22:47: licenses to vote. It's not legal,
22:50: >> but someone could break the law and do
22:53: it with those driver's license. The
22:54: problem is they know that some people
22:56: have. There definitely have been
22:58: instances where illegal aliens have
23:00: voted for whatever election,
23:03: >> right? So the question is, did they move
23:06: them there for congressional seats? Did
23:08: they move them there for cheap labor?
23:10: Did they move them there because if they
23:13: they pay for these people and give them
23:14: EBT cards and then eventually they
23:17: devise a pathway to citizenship if they
23:19: get like a Democrat in in four years, we
23:22: have to take care of our community
23:24: regardless of whether you if you're a
23:26: good person, a hardworking person, we
23:28: want you to join team America. And
23:30: that's how I feel. That's how I feel.
23:32: And so then all of a sudden those people
23:34: who you gay got in, gave EBT cards, put
23:37: them up in the Roosevelt, now those
23:39: people are voting,
23:40: >> right? And obviously they're going to
23:41: vote for the people who have protected
23:43: them and I wouldn't blame them for that
23:45: at all.
23:45: >> Especially now, this is why it's
23:47: politically dangerous for the
23:48: Republicans because this support of ICE
23:50: and seeing that that you just lost the
23:52: whole Latino base, right? Except the
23:55: hardcore Cubans who don't give a [ __ ]
23:57: Get the [ __ ] out of here. We ain't
23:59: voting Democrat. That was the joke I had
24:01: is like the second they put their foot
24:02: on dry land, they're like, "We got to
24:03: stop this immigration.
24:05: >> This is this is too much, guys. This is
24:07: too much."
24:09: >> Especially from communist countries. Get
24:10: the [ __ ] out of here with those ideas.
24:12: >> They've experienced communism and that's
24:14: why they embrace materialism. Cubans
24:16: love Cuban links, big ass gold chains to
24:19: let a [ __ ] know I got some
24:21: cheddar, right? Like because in their
24:23: country like you get what they give you
24:25: and that's it.
24:26: >> I heard a I heard a good quote. You you
24:28: know who uh you know who Carlos Slim is?
24:31: You've heard of Carlos Slim? He's like a
24:33: telecommunication magnet. He's the
24:34: wealthiest guy in Mexico, but they all
24:36: over the world. He's like, you know,
24:37: super billionaire. And um
24:40: >> apparently I you know this is a
24:41: secondhand but like he's this guy who I
24:44: don't know what he looks like but I'm
24:45: aware of his name.
24:47: >> He's incredibly powerful, incredibly
24:49: successful.
24:50: >> What a great name.
24:51: >> Carlson. Amazing. Right. And uh sounds
24:53: like a pool player, right?
24:54: >> It sounds like uh he's related to
24:56: Iceberg. the guy who wrote the uh book.
24:59: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
25:00: >> He wrote a book on
25:00: >> Pippen. That book is terrifying.
25:03: >> Like I was like, how do I make sure
25:05: these guys don't meet my wife? Like it's
25:08: [ __ ] horrifying that book. But um but
25:11: yeah, he had an interesting thing about
25:12: like I'm always impressed by these guys
25:14: who have all this power, but they don't
25:15: want any of the limelight. Like I don't
25:18: know what he looks like, but I know the
25:20: name and I know he's involved in
25:21: everything. And uh apparently he said
25:23: something like um
25:25: even billionaires can be new to money
25:29: implying that like a lot of the guys
25:30: that we see we hear the guys that are
25:32: all over the place
25:34: >> like they're new to this and they on
25:37: some level want it to be known that they
25:39: got it
25:40: >> right.
25:40: >> And the people who maybe done it for you
25:43: know legacy generations they're like you
25:45: actually get yourself in more trouble
25:47: the more people know.
25:49: >> Oh for sure. Right. But it's hard to
25:51: like be broke and then get some money
25:53: and not want to flex it.
25:54: >> Well, even if you don't want to flex it,
25:56: if you just have it, like if you're Jeff
25:58: Bezos, you're out in the middle of the
25:59: Caribbean, you know, with Lauren Sanchez
26:02: chilling on a yacht there. There's
26:04: someone with a drone taking photos of
26:05: you.
26:05: >> I mean, you also do your wedding in
26:07: Venice. Like, you want to flex it.
26:08: >> That was flexing.
26:09: >> You want to flex it.
26:09: >> That was her bet.
26:10: >> Yeah.
26:11: >> She was like, I want a big
26:12: >> Oh, wait. You don't think Jeff wanted to
26:14: do his second wedding in Venice
26:16: >> with a bunch of celebrities? Invite
26:18: every famous person on Earth. The
26:20: Kardashian show met three times.
26:22: >> You don't think he wanted that?
26:24: >> Yeah. Hilarious.
26:25: >> But that's what happens, bro. The
26:26: wedding is the wife's is
26:28: >> right. And you kind of got to go, too.
26:29: You're like, "Damn, we got you kind of
26:30: got to do your own." Oh, I thought you
26:31: were talking about Jeff going to his own
26:32: wedding.
26:32: >> Oh, yeah. That, too.
26:34: >> Yeah. Do I have to go? This feels like
26:36: your thing. Are you sure I have to do
26:37: it?
26:37: >> I have to support you in this venture.
26:39: >> Yeah.
26:40: >> Yeah. But you like if you get invited to
26:42: that and you're like one of their
26:43: [ __ ] friends, you're like, "Oh,
26:44: great.
26:45: >> Yeah.
26:45: >> I gotta fly to Venice and be a part of
26:47: this zoo." See, that's how you that's
26:49: like that's how like kind of we would
26:52: feel about it. But there are certain
26:53: people who are like I think they almost
26:55: define themselves by those invitations.
26:59: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
27:01: >> But what
27:02: >> I think I define myself being able to
27:04: miss the wedding.
27:06: >> Well, there's also a thing that we
27:08: actually make stuff ourselves
27:12: rather than have to uh get hired to go
27:15: make us stuff. You know, like you'll do
27:17: a movie occasionally if you want to, but
27:19: you make your own comedy, you make your
27:22: own podcast, you make your own stuff.
27:24: >> When you're an actor and you don't make
27:26: your own stuff and you got to appear in
27:28: other people's stuff, there's a whole
27:29: different layer of [ __ ] that you
27:32: have to dance with.
27:33: >> There's a reliance.
27:34: >> Yeah, there's a reliance. And then
27:36: there's also like a currency of being
27:38: current,
27:39: >> you know, and being hot.
27:41: >> Yep. Yep. Yep. You got to be a part of
27:42: that. Yeah. And that's when, you know,
27:45: one of the things you see about comics
27:47: that lash out at people, it's like
27:48: Marin's a good example of this is like
27:50: once you've got no currency, that's when
27:53: you start lashing out because you got to
27:55: get attention some way. Yeah.
27:57: >> And you're not getting it through your
27:58: art. So what's the what's the way to get
28:00: it? You have to figure out some way to
28:02: be current. So find out what is current
28:04: and then [ __ ] all over it. And get the
28:07: people who who think Elon's a [ __ ]
28:09: He's a [ __ ] Yeah. like get those
28:11: people and they're like, "Yeah, [ __ ]
28:13: Schultz. Yeah, [ __ ] Roen. [ __ ]
28:16: everybody." But
28:17: >> yeah,
28:18: >> I mean, that's the that's got to be the
28:20: worst thing is like to be a comic that
28:23: only gets attention when you talk about
28:25: comedy,
28:26: >> right?
28:26: >> Like you want to get attention from your
28:28: jokes. You want people to like you for
28:31: the funny.
28:31: >> You want to have a really interesting
28:32: point that nobody else thought of.
28:34: >> Yeah. Hilarious. Or something [ __ ]
28:36: stupid and silly that's hilarious. like
28:38: that's what we love and like that's what
28:39: you actually really want. But like when
28:41: the only reason anybody's talking about
28:43: you is because you're [ __ ] on your
28:45: colleagues,
28:45: >> right?
28:47: >> Like that's what's bothering you in the
28:48: world.
28:48: >> But I think I think that's what happened
28:50: with just the whole like what's
28:52: happening right now with the comedy
28:53: economy. It's like I think people are
28:54: feeling I think I think young comics are
28:57: probably feeling a little bit like
28:58: concerned that they don't know the way
29:00: forward,
29:00: >> right? They also don't know whether or
29:02: not they're being forced to participate
29:04: in these pylons or whether they should
29:06: back off. and then they get pressure and
29:08: they don't know what to do. Like I cut
29:10: young guys and young women a lot more
29:12: slack than I do the OGs, these people
29:15: that have been around for a long time.
29:16: You should you should know what it's
29:17: like to be attacked and you should know
29:19: that this is not fair. It's not cool.
29:21: And you also should if you have an
29:23: opinion on what these people are doing
29:26: with whatever whether it's Riad or
29:28: whether
29:31: have some kind of compassion for these
29:35: people as human beings and as colleagues
29:38: and
29:40: be charitable. Be charitable. This what
29:42: I try to do. I try to be very charitable
29:44: when I talk about anybody that I'm not
29:47: like in like a real serious
29:49: >> like a Mark Baron type thing with.
29:51: >> Yeah.
29:51: >> That guy. I'm like, "Fuck you."
29:52: >> Yeah.
29:53: >> You're You're a problem.
29:54: >> But he made his bed.
29:55: >> Yeah. He made his Well, he made his bed
29:56: and the Theo thing just really drove me
29:58: crazy cuz Theo is the sweetest [ __ ]
30:00: human being. I I love him to death.
30:03: >> You think that Mary wants to be talking
30:05: about another comedian? Like do you
30:08: think the thing is that's you remember
30:09: when comics would all they talk about is
30:11: like airline seats and travel. It's
30:14: because that's all they knew because
30:15: they were on the road
30:15: >> on the road constantly because that's
30:17: all they think about. That's all he
30:18: thinks about is other people doing
30:19: better than him. So that's what he wants
30:21: to be about.
30:22: >> Where's your thoughts on Gaza?
30:23: >> Oh, I haven't heard him say anything
30:25: about that one.
30:25: >> Kind of weird.
30:26: >> Yeah.
30:27: >> The there was some crazy estimate the
30:29: the the actual official tallies like
30:33: 67,000 people dead but the
30:36: >> I think it's going to be more than that.
30:37: Oh, there's Steven Dawinger uh had a a
30:39: thing on his page where there's some
30:42: human rights group that estimates it to
30:43: be as high as 400,000.
30:45: >> Yeah, cuz I don't think they count
30:47: missing as dead yet.
30:48: >> No, I mean there's no way there's no way
30:50: they know. You look at all that rubble
30:52: >> and bro Okay, so there's that, but then
30:54: there's also what Hamas is doing right
30:56: now in in Gaza, which is crazy. These
30:59: executions and tortures of people that
31:01: they think collaborated with Israel.
31:04: >> Woo!
31:04: >> Horrific. Horrific. Me and Tommy Sigura
31:07: have a uh a text thread that we go back
31:10: and forth with literally the worst [ __ ]
31:12: we find every day. It's like a trauma
31:14: thread.
31:15: >> And uh
31:16: >> Tom,
31:16: >> I sent him one.
31:17: >> Tom just needs to feel something. Huh?
31:19: >> Tom just needs to feel.
31:21: >> He just needs to feel.
31:22: >> That's why I sent him these things.
31:24: >> You got to show him the worst [ __ ] ever.
31:25: He's like, "All right, I am human."
31:27: >> Yeah. I sent him one. He was like, "That
31:28: one was rough." I'm like, "Yeah, yeah,
31:30: yeah. It's uh they they were breaking
31:32: this guy's bones with boulders."
31:34: >> Oh jeez. They had this guy blindfolded
31:36: and he was sitting down and they took
31:38: this enormous rock and threw it on his
31:40: shin and snapped his shin in half
31:43: >> and this guy's screaming and then they
31:45: take his arm and they stretch his arm
31:47: out and this guy hits it with this giant
31:49: bat and crushes his arm.
31:50: >> No, it's horrific.
31:51: >> It is so crazy what they're doing and
31:53: they're doing it on, you know, Samsung
31:55: 4K video on a cell phone
31:57: >> and kids can see it.
31:58: >> Anybody can see it. My kids saw the
32:00: Charlie Kirk assassination. You know,
32:02: it's like I didn't want to see it and
32:04: then someone sent it to me. I think Tom
32:07: sent it to me actually and I'm like,
32:08: "All right, let me see." And I watched I
32:10: was like, "Oh, god damn."
32:12: >> But that's Yeah, that's the that's the
32:13: tricky thing right now is cuz I think
32:15: that like
32:16: >> as far as we've been comedians, there's
32:18: been like a clear path of how to make
32:20: it. It didn't mean that it was
32:21: accessible to everybody, but like when
32:23: you're growing up, I'm sure it's like
32:24: get an HBO special.
32:25: >> Mhm. When I'm coming up, it was HBO and
32:28: then it transitioned to come on the Joe
32:31: Rogan podcast. And that was the thing.
32:33: And did it mean every single comedian
32:35: that came on here became a millionaire?
32:37: No. But a lot [ __ ] did.
32:40: >> You got to look.
32:40: >> You got to look. You got an audience
32:42: that was interested and curious and like
32:45: >> if you were legit, if you were Shane
32:47: Gillis, if you were you, if you were Ari
32:49: Shafir, whatever it was, you popped off.
32:51: >> Hundreds of people, right? And we saw it
32:53: like instantaneously. It was like you
32:54: come on and then your podcast would go
32:56: number one afterwards. Like you remember
32:57: this, right?
32:58: >> And it was like okay. So then comics
33:00: were like okay wow there's a pathway
33:01: forward
33:02: >> and then like the clip economy and the
33:04: YouTube specials and these things
33:06: started happening and then people like
33:07: okay I do that that's how I go popping.
33:09: Then Kill Tony erupts and it's like oh
33:11: [ __ ] if I can get a a spot on Kill Tony
33:13: then I can make it right. And I think
33:15: that like now people are going okay I I
33:19: might not be the right fit for Kill Tony
33:21: because the character based things
33:22: really explode more than like say a
33:24: traditional comic. It's like okay I
33:25: don't do that. It's like I don't know
33:27: how I can even get on Joe and if I do
33:29: get on Joe can I be on enough where the
33:31: audience will see. I put a YouTube
33:32: special out but like it seems like
33:34: there's hundreds of YouTube specials
33:36: out. So it's like I don't know if that's
33:37: going to be the thing that breaks me.
33:38: So, I think that the younger comics are
33:40: kind of experiencing this thing where
33:41: they're like, I don't know the pathway
33:43: forward and someone's going to invent
33:45: some [ __ ] Someone's going to do the
33:46: thing that I did that you did where you
33:48: just try something new and then it
33:49: catches on and [ __ ] that dominates
33:51: what it is. But like I think they're in
33:53: this this period where they're like, I
33:55: don't know what to do. And when you
33:57: don't know what to do and you're not
33:58: where you want to be, that's where I
34:00: think the bitterness starts to come out.
34:02: Well, you also don't know what the path
34:04: forward is and if it there it's ever
34:05: going to arrive for you or if you're
34:07: just going to be like on the outside
34:08: forever.
34:09: >> So, you're toiling in obscurity and then
34:10: you're just and then you start to feel
34:12: resentful. Then you start to feel angry.
34:13: Before you might feel resentful and
34:14: angry, but you're like, you know what,
34:15: there might be a chance Joe could see
34:17: me. He'll bring me on his podcast and
34:18: then I can have all this [ __ ]
34:19: success. And it's like,
34:22: so I do empathize with that like anger,
34:26: but the knee-jerk reaction to just [ __ ]
34:28: on everything and try to [ __ ] on the
34:30: scene and like [ __ ] on Austin or like
34:32: [ __ ] on these things. I I don't think
34:34: they realize that that's not going to
34:36: get them any closer. It will get them
34:38: like immediate attention. A bunch of
34:39: their comedian friends around them are
34:41: going to click and like and do these
34:42: things, but it's not going to be that
34:44: long-term sustained career. You don't
34:46: build a fan base by going, I don't like
34:48: that place. You also alienate the newest
34:51: scene in the world.
34:52: >> You alienate people who actually help
34:53: you. This is the thing.
34:54: >> You also you're making a fake version of
34:56: what the scene is, too.
34:58: >> Well, that I mean that's the internet,
34:59: right? It's like
34:59: >> that's the crazy thing. It's like you
35:01: have to say you have to have an n-word
35:03: joke. You have to h you know, you have
35:05: to go on and have a trans joke. And this
35:07: is just the same thing. It's be you know
35:09: what the problem is? It's a walled
35:11: garden. Austin is a walled garden. Like
35:13: if you're on the outside, you see all
35:15: these people having so much fun in the
35:16: garden. And you're like, you I can't
35:17: even I'm not even in there. [ __ ] those
35:19: people. It's not It's not. But it's an
35:21: appearance of a walled guard.
35:22: >> Exactly. And then I think that there's
35:23: like people on another level up we were
35:25: saying earlier that are like seeing
35:27: these like people talk [ __ ] about it and
35:29: they're getting concerned that it could
35:31: like negatively impact them in a way. So
35:33: they're doing this like it's it's the
35:35: most [ __ ] [ __ ] They're like trying to
35:37: create a little distance. Not too much
35:38: where they can't call you and say, "Hey,
35:40: I got a p I got a I got a special."
35:42: Yeah. like not too much where it's like,
35:44: "Oh, I'd like to come on your podcast,
35:45: but I'll have a guy who's going to [ __ ]
35:46: on you for the whole [ __ ] episode and
35:47: not give you push back." It's like, and
35:49: it's not just him. Like, I've seen other
35:50: people do it. It's just like, "Dude,
35:51: dude, dude, you're going to go through
35:53: some cancel [ __ ] later." All these guys,
35:54: they're going to go through some later.
35:56: And they had a guy that they could call
35:58: that would bring them on the biggest
36:00: plat platform in the world, and let them
36:02: explain themselves, have their back.
36:04: Like, you will do it.
36:05: >> I Well, I would still do that with
36:06: Santino.
36:06: >> Of course you would. That's your boy.
36:08: That's your boy. I love him. He's a
36:09: [ __ ] amazing hang. That was a bad
36:11: move. That was a bad movie in my
36:13: opinion.
36:13: >> He felt like, look, Mark is irrelevant.
36:16: He's yelling these things out. Like, let
36:18: him rant. Everyone's going to know what
36:19: he's doing. But I don't think everybody
36:21: in the outside does cuz they don't know
36:24: comedy. They don't know the business
36:25: >> and it looks like you're co-signing it
36:26: all. And it looks like that you're okay
36:28: with this. And I'm fine with you having
36:29: him on. Like I would have Marin on, but
36:31: we're going to go at it.
36:32: >> Like a calls him out. Akos calls him out
36:35: every single episode. He's just like,
36:36: "Come on, you [ __ ] Let's talk.
36:37: >> You ain't shit."
36:38: >> Yeah. So it's like it's like But it's
36:40: like Yeah. but also defend your boy. And
36:42: that's also important because at at at a
36:45: baseline,
36:47: people don't want to see people abandon
36:50: their friends at like a baseline human
36:52: thing,
36:52: >> right?
36:53: >> Even if you got your friends back when
36:55: he's going through some [ __ ] even if
36:56: you disagree with that person did, like
36:57: baseline human, you go, I kind of would
36:59: want that guy as a friend.
37:01: >> There was a video of Trump on Letterman
37:04: when uh I think it's Letterman. I'm
37:06: pretty sure it's Letterman. Trump when
37:08: uh Mike Tyson got convicted. And bro, it
37:12: was like the most unpopular opinion in
37:15: the world. He goes, I think his his
37:17: attorneys were terrible. They had the
37:18: worst defense I've ever heard in my
37:20: life. This girl came up to his room at
37:22: 1:00 a.m. They said she was dancing a
37:25: few hours later. She was hanging out
37:26: with people, having a good time. She
37:28: came over, took off her panty shield in
37:30: the in his bathroom, like, and she'd
37:33: also accused someone of rape. uh that
37:36: wasn't was unjustly accused of rape
37:38: before she had done it before. She had
37:40: done the same thing before.
37:42: >> You know, I don't know what the [ __ ]
37:43: happened there. Obvious. But that was
37:45: his boy and he defended his boy said,
37:47: "Look, we don't know. We don't know what
37:48: happened." And he said it on letter B. I
37:50: respect that [ __ ]
37:51: >> And he was like, "Whoa." And but a lot
37:52: of people in the comments did too. Like,
37:53: wow.
37:54: >> And Tyson had his back. You know that.
37:55: Like they've talked to Tyson decades
37:57: later.
37:57: >> Always has.
37:58: >> Yeah. It's Yeah. It's a different I
38:01: don't know. To me, I'm like, I thought
38:02: this is normal. Like I thought this is
38:05: >> because you're a man.
38:06: >> That's the thing. There's a lot of these
38:08: people that are like a salamander that's
38:10: never gone through its final
38:11: developmental changes and they're they
38:12: they're stuck in like an adolescent
38:14: stage of evolution forever.
38:16: >> Yeah.
38:17: >> There's there's there's men that are
38:18: like that, you know.
38:20: >> I don't know. And maybe it's cuz I like
38:22: know guys like you and like Charlemagne
38:24: who like I see them going through [ __ ]
38:26: and I see people like will try to like
38:28: get me to talk to. It's like it ain't
38:30: going to happen. Yeah. Like I know these
38:32: people as human beings, you know, a
38:34: 30-cond TikTok of them. So, if you want
38:35: to have that conversation, we're going
38:37: to have it. But like, you're not going
38:38: to like the way it goes because these
38:40: people are my friends. Like real
38:41: friends,
38:41: >> right?
38:42: >> Not like colleagues. There are people
38:44: who were colleagues with,
38:45: >> right?
38:46: >> But like my real friends, you guys are
38:47: at my wedding,
38:48: >> right?
38:48: >> And you've been at my wedding. Like my
38:50: wedding wasn't like a comedy hangout,
38:51: >> right?
38:52: >> It was people who I am close to. You
38:54: know what I mean? Like,
38:55: >> by the way, it's one of the only
38:56: weddings I've ever been
38:57: >> and I respected that. Took a COVID test.
39:00: took a COVID test. I just want to let
39:02: you so upset about it, too. You were
39:03: like, "Here, bitch." You sent me a
39:06: picture. You're like, "I'm free of it,
39:07: bitch."
39:08: >> I was already over. Well, that I don't
39:10: even know if I had been at the beginning
39:12: of being cancelled about the co stuff. I
39:15: was like, it was just starting.
39:16: >> Yeah. Can I pee real quick?
39:18: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's pee. We're back.
39:19: >> We're back. Um when Tony got into it
39:22: when the first one with the the Asian
39:25: thing when he got into that people
39:27: didn't know the he was totally not
39:29: always he set up um people don't know
39:31: the full context of it. This guy did
39:33: this whole set
39:34: >> of like it was like real bad comedy and
39:37: it was why do you hate Asians? Everybody
39:40: hates Asians. And so Tony gets up and
39:42: makes fun of him for being Chinese.
39:44: Afterwards they take that they run with
39:46: it. Tony fortunately had a video of that
39:50: guy's set and released it along with his
39:53: full set. Well, you see this is just
39:55: what he does. He's just [ __ ] around
39:56: and then he kills. He kills for the
39:58: entire set and he released that and then
40:00: the cancellation basically died off. But
40:03: >> when he was going through it, man, I I
40:05: was really worried about him. Like
40:07: genuinely worried about him. He thought
40:08: his life was over. He had never
40:10: experienced anything like that before.
40:12: >> Yeah. And then I took him with me to
40:14: Salt Lake City. And it was only
40:17: God, I guess, a week and a half. He took
40:20: off one weekend. We did a a show in
40:23: Houston and he's like, I just I don't
40:25: think I can go on stage. Just take this
40:26: weekend off. I'm going to pay you
40:28: anyway. I go, I'll pay you. Just relax
40:30: and then we'll do Salt Lake City, right?
40:32: I just just just I know you're going
40:34: through it. Just So then he went on
40:36: stage one night at the Vulcan. He's
40:37: like, dude, I think I could do I'm back.
40:39: I'm back. And so then people didn't know
40:41: that he was going to be with me in Salt
40:43: Lake City. So we're in the back of the
40:45: room and I announce the opening act and
40:48: I said, "Ladies and gentlemen, one of my
40:50: best friends, Tony Hencliffe." And they
40:53: went, "Yeah." They stood up, arms raised
40:56: like, "Fuck yeah." It was part of it was
40:59: because I was supporting him. He was
41:01: going through it was public. was in the
41:02: middle of everything
41:03: >> and he went up and destroyed the love
41:08: that he got from those people and then
41:10: he went and just ran with it and he had
41:12: material on it. He was already talking
41:15: about it and it's just it was beautiful.
41:18: But it was beautiful to watch him
41:21: realize like, oh, I'm going to be okay.
41:23: >> The internet is not reality,
41:25: >> right? and he had that moment in real
41:26: time, but he also had you having his
41:28: back. Like that's the And I think people
41:30: see that also. Like I think there's
41:32: people in the crowd that see that and I
41:33: think on a primal level they go, "Man,
41:35: if I got caught up in some [ __ ] [ __ ] I
41:37: would really like it if my friend had my
41:39: back."
41:40: >> Yeah.
41:40: >> If people were saying things about me
41:42: that my friends know were false
41:45: >> and they use their platforms to talk or,
41:47: you know, put me on or whatever it is, I
41:49: think deep down viscerally they go, "Oh,
41:51: that's a good guy." You got to try to
41:54: like help people neg you know I tried to
41:57: get Steve Renzi on when that 911 stuff
42:00: happened and he decided to go on Stern
42:02: instead.
42:03: >> Yeah.
42:03: >> And I was like okay but
42:06: >> I'm telling you I if I have you on I can
42:10: navigate it a little more
42:12: compassionately. But I don't think at
42:14: the time
42:15: >> he understood where podcasts were versus
42:19: where Stern was at the time. Stern was
42:22: still stern in his eyes, but it wasn't
42:24: stern in terms of like the reach.
42:26: >> And even if it was, he's not going to
42:28: handle you the same way I'm going to
42:29: handle you.
42:30: >> Yeah.
42:30: >> Like, I'm going to give you all the room
42:32: in the world to express yourself and I'm
42:35: going to be as charitable as possible
42:36: and I'm going to put myself in a
42:38: position where I can imagine if I made
42:40: up a story and then I got stuck with it
42:42: like, oh no, you know, and what is the
42:45: way forward with that? Well, I guess the
42:48: way forward he eventually had to address
42:49: it and talk about it on stage and you
42:53: know, but you you can help people. You
42:57: could really it really does work if you
42:59: have a platform and someone's going
43:01: through something like you really can
43:03: save their their world. You can you can
43:07: especially if you show that you have
43:08: support and you love them and you talk
43:09: about it and talk about what a great
43:11: person they are. Like Tony's one of my
43:12: favorite people ever.
43:13: >> Yeah, Tony's great, man. And like I he
43:16: has this massive thing and naturally we
43:19: want to pick at the people that are
43:21: incredibly successful. It's just like
43:22: human nature. [ __ ] Taylor Swift gets
43:24: it.
43:24: >> You know what I mean? Like
43:25: >> bro, here's the thing. Till Kill Tony
43:27: wasn't that big back then. That's the
43:30: problem.
43:30: >> No, back then. I'm saying even now.
43:32: >> Yeah. But now Well, well, the thing is
43:33: the second cancellation like after he
43:35: did the
43:36: >> the Puerto Rico.
43:37: >> Yeah. The Puerto Rico thing, he was
43:38: already ready. He was like, I've been
43:39: through this [ __ ] storm before. I'm
43:40: just going to tie down these sales and
43:44: ride this [ __ ] out.
43:47: >> But if he hadn't been through that, that
43:49: would have been even more devastating
43:50: because then you're getting cancelled by
43:52: CNN and New York Times. And you know,
43:55: they had stories pre-written ready to go
43:58: blaming the loss of Trump on Tony
44:01: Hinchcliffe.
44:02: >> And then the Latino went vote went up
44:04: >> by like 15%.
44:05: >> He said Tony said the first night he
44:08: slept was the night that I endorsed
44:09: Trump
44:11: >> for real.
44:12: >> Yeah. Yeah. And he literally said,
44:14: "Dude, that was the first night." He
44:16: goes, "I think it's going to be okay
44:17: now."
44:17: >> Wow.
44:18: >> Which is crazy because that's part of
44:20: the reasons why I did it.
44:23: Get Tony out of here.
44:25: >> We got to protect Tony.
44:26: >> If you get You didn't even need to. The
44:29: Puerto Ricans were like, "We got this."
44:30: >> Yeah. Well, Puerto Ricans take a joke
44:32: better than anybody on the planet. That
44:33: is a great shit-talking community. They
44:36: talk [ __ ] to each other. It's part of
44:39: >> in New York. They're not going to be
44:40: sensitive about anything. Now, what I
44:41: would have told Zony and like what I
44:42: said to him is like, I wish you had told
44:44: me like what the set is because like New
44:46: Yorkers have this idea of Puerto Rico as
44:47: this like beautiful Caribbean island.
44:49: It's like our first vacation in New York
44:51: when we go to a fancy place. It's Puerto
44:53: Rico. So, I think when he was connecting
44:55: it to the the the island of garbage,
44:58: which I knew where he's going, there was
45:00: like a island of garbage floating in the
45:03: Atlant Atlantic or
45:04: >> No, it's the Pacific Pacific garbage
45:06: patch. So it was actually he was
45:07: bringing it to something that was a
45:09: popular story like a year or two ago,
45:11: but New Yorkers don't know what the [ __ ]
45:12: is floating. Do you know what I mean?
45:14: Like we're just like, "Yo, Puerto
45:15: Rico's." So I think that they were just
45:16: like, "Oh, that was weird. We don't see
45:18: Puerto Rico in that way."
45:19: >> Well, you know, not necessarily cuz that
45:22: joke murders when he did it at Madison
45:24: Square Garden when he was opening for
45:26: me.
45:26: >> Oh, really?
45:27: >> [ __ ] murdered.
45:28: >> Okay, fair enough.
45:29: >> Murdered. Because it's just a joke.
45:31: >> The thing is, it's just a joke. But it's
45:32: also Puerto Rico, if you don't know, has
45:35: a massive garbage problem because they
45:38: have a landfill issue because they don't
45:39: have much land.
45:40: >> It's like all these [ __ ] tourists
45:42: coming over there with their [ __ ]
45:43: water bottles
45:44: >> and they got a huge hole in the ground
45:47: that's overflowing with trash.
45:48: >> At the end of the day, it's a [ __ ]
45:50: joke.
45:50: >> It's a joke.
45:51: >> It's a joke,
45:51: >> but it's not a joke he should have done
45:53: there.
45:53: >> That's the thing.
45:54: >> If if he was running that joke by me,
45:56: I'd be like, "No,
45:57: >> that's not the one." That's what I'm
45:58: saying. Well, there's a different place
46:00: that you could use that might
46:01: >> I told him not to do it, period. I was
46:03: like, there's no upside to this, dude.
46:05: This is a It's not going to be a comedy
46:07: crowd. And And meanwhile, he goes on
46:09: after some guy has got this crazy we got
46:11: to take back American.
46:13: >> That's the thing. Even doing comedy in
46:15: that environment is is like the
46:16: trickiest thing. And like I do think
46:19: like in general like us just having
46:21: politicians on and like even going to
46:23: the rally when it's like I think what's
46:25: happened is that we've politicized
46:27: ourselves and like we've brought
46:28: ourselves into the game of politics
46:30: which is the ugliest game.
46:32: >> Yeah.
46:32: >> Like it is the ugliest game because it's
46:35: that zero sum [ __ ] we were saying
46:36: earlier. It's just like this is people
46:38: really believe it's life or death.
46:40: >> Uhhuh.
46:40: >> Dude, I was pushing my my daughter in a
46:42: stroller, right? And uh a lady goes,
46:44: "Hey, this is in New York." She goes,
46:46: "Hey, didn't you have Trump on your
46:47: podcast?" And I was like, "I already
46:48: know what's going." I'm like, I'm like,
46:49: "Yeah, yeah, he was. Yeah, he was on the
46:51: podcast." And she's like, "Uh, well, I
46:53: hope your daughter has a good life."
46:56: I'm like, "Bitch, you live in Tribeca."
46:58: You know what I mean? Like, like, what
47:00: do you think is happening over here?
47:02: Your husband works for [ __ ] Goldman.
47:04: You know what I mean? Like, what do you
47:05: think he's voting for? But like that
47:07: type of vitriolic hate
47:10: >> to a stranger on the street.
47:11: >> What'd you say to her? I said, uh, I go,
47:14: uh, I go, "Oh, do you have a daughter?"
47:16: Cuz she just looked lonely and I really
47:19: wanted her to be like, "No." And then I
47:21: was just going to lower the [ __ ]
47:23: boom. And then she was like, "Yeah, I
47:24: have two." And I was like, "Okay, well,
47:26: I hope they have good lives."
47:31: [Laughter]
47:34: She out crowdworked me.
47:38: >> Yeah.
47:38: >> I was like, "Show like I was like in
47:40: shock." Like I'm like with like there's
47:41: a I'm with a child. Like why are you
47:43: talking to me in the street? Like
47:44: >> I saw a video of a lady getting out of a
47:46: cyber truck in New Jersey and some woman
47:48: yelled at, "Are you [ __ ] racist? You
47:50: racist." She's like, "What?"
47:51: >> Yeah.
47:51: >> Somebody just gave me a ride.
47:53: >> It was an Uber.
47:55: >> No, it was like she was got a ride from
47:57: somebody who had a cyber truck and she
47:58: got out of the car.
47:59: >> Oh yeah.
48:00: >> And you know, and some lady started
48:01: calling her a racist out of nowhere.
48:03: >> There's insane people.
48:05: >> Oh yeah.
48:05: >> There's like And they've always been
48:07: here. always
48:10: rooted in their insanity because it's
48:12: rewarded every time they go on their
48:14: phone.
48:17: >> Yeah, you're right about that opinion.
48:18: Here's evidence 30 seconds at a time
48:20: >> and they're dumb so they don't realize
48:21: what it's doing to them. So, they're on
48:23: that [ __ ] [ __ ] all day long getting
48:24: aggravated
48:25: >> and they're desperate for community.
48:27: >> Their whole identity is this community.
48:28: God forbid they have an dissenting
48:30: opinion. All of a sudden, that community
48:32: is going to ostracize them.
48:33: >> Yeah.
48:33: >> It's it's literally what happened to
48:34: like Ezra. Like Ezra is actually trying
48:36: to have real conversations. Like he
48:38: believes in what Democrats can do and
48:39: think that they're the best for
48:40: government and he's like, "How can we
48:41: make this happen?" And then there are
48:43: people that would be like his biggest
48:46: supporters. The second he moves a little
48:48: bit away, it's I can't believe he's
48:50: turned into a right-wing grifter.
48:52: They're talking calling Ezra Klene a
48:55: right-wing grifter.
48:57: >> Yeah. Or Elon Musk a [ __ ] Yeah. It's
49:00: the same thing. You You're never going
49:02: to make everybody happy. And as your
49:05: profile increases, the number of
49:08: ignorant people that are paying
49:09: attention and commenting on you
49:10: increases.
49:11: >> Yes,
49:11: >> it is. And so it's
49:13: >> that's a great point. Yeah. It's like
49:15: the percentage doesn't change, but the
49:18: amount changes
49:19: >> drastically
49:20: >> because you have so many more people
49:21: loging.
49:22: >> Well, especially if there's an event
49:23: like if you had Trump on the podcast,
49:25: that's the event. And then ignorant
49:27: people just start yapping out their
49:29: opinion. And I want them to have
49:31: opinions. I think it's a beautiful
49:32: thing. I'll never tell anybody not to
49:34: say anything. But like the funniest
49:35: thing about the Trump pott is that like
49:37: initially it was Kamla's campaign and
49:40: the Democrats like loving the interview
49:43: because Trump said that thing. It was a
49:45: really fascinating thing that happened
49:46: because both sides were going, "Oh, this
49:48: is awesome." And I was like, "Holy
49:49: shit." Like what?
49:50: >> What did he say?
49:50: >> He goes, "Uh, he says one of the
49:52: funniest things ever." He goes, "Uh, he
49:54: goes,
49:55: >> I'm basically an honest person."
50:00: And then he says it to me and I just
50:02: laugh cuz I'm like that's I laugh for a
50:04: few reasons. Like one I laugh because
50:06: it's a hilarious thing to say.
50:07: >> It's very funny.
50:08: >> But two, it's like actually the most
50:10: honest thing to say.
50:12: >> Like if I'm deconstructing it, it's like
50:14: anybody who goes I've never told a lie.
50:16: You're like you're a [ __ ] liar. You
50:18: just told one.
50:19: >> But saying you're basically honest is
50:20: like, yeah, I pretty much mostly tell
50:22: the truth.
50:23: >> Yeah.
50:23: >> You know, sometimes I say Melania looks
50:25: skinnier than she does.
50:26: >> You know, whatever the [ __ ] you know
50:28: what I mean? But like it's I don't know.
50:31: It was just the funniest thing
50:32: >> or the Epstein files is a hoax,
50:33: >> bro. The [ __ ] Epstein thing is just
50:36: >> nothing but a hoax.
50:37: >> It's just it's just I I don't even
50:40: understand. I don't get it. I don't get
50:43: it. It's It is the easiest political
50:45: victory. Like if you if you just
50:47: >> It is. But it isn't. Here's the thing.
50:49: Yeah.
50:49: >> Um I'm not supporting anything. Just be
50:52: really clear, ladies and gentlemen. Um,
50:54: but if you are if you have relationships
50:59: with all these insanely wealthy people
51:01: that are going to be hurt,
51:02: >> severely impacted by this, like this is
51:06: the ultimate political football
51:09: because I don't know what the numbers
51:11: are. I don't know who the people are,
51:13: but I've heard things. And if those
51:15: things are true, you're dealing with
51:16: some of the most powerful people in the
51:18: world. Some of the wealthiest people in
51:20: the world.
51:21: >> They got to go down.
51:22: >> Yeah. Well, it depends on what they did,
51:23: right? It's like, did you go over there
51:25: and have sex with a 24-year-old and do
51:27: coke or did you go Totally fine,
51:29: >> right? Or did you go over there? But
51:30: here,
51:31: >> wouldn't you want that out? I would want
51:32: that out if like
51:33: >> Yeah, but you wouldn't want that out
51:34: because like how do you you're you're
51:37: connected to pedophilia. What? No matter
51:39: what Epste was 24 and then someone's
51:42: going to go, "Well, did you idea?" And
51:44: you're like, "Well, no, I didn't I
51:46: >> did you see underage girls? Were you
51:48: there? Are you complicit?" You know,
51:49: >> so you don't want to even be around it,
51:51: >> right? Well, you can't be around it. I
51:52: mean, the guy 100%
51:54: >> had sexual relationships with under
51:56: underage girls in at least in Florida.
51:59: Convicted and convicted. Yeah. And so
52:02: that and you knew that when you were
52:04: meeting him. That's the Bill Gates
52:06: thing. That's the craziest after the
52:07: guy.
52:07: >> Bill Gates, the Stephanopoulos guy. Like
52:09: a bunch of them went over there.
52:11: >> A lot of people went over there. A lot
52:12: of a lot of scientists went over there.
52:14: And I think those guys thought they were
52:15: going over there for this beautiful
52:17: place where you can go. This guy's
52:18: donating money to science. You're
52:20: hanging out with movie stars, this
52:22: intellectual discourse. So, tell me
52:24: about string theory. Well, it's really
52:25: fascinating. One things we've learned
52:27: and you're having cocktails like this
52:29: place is great. And then you can get
52:30: your dick sucked.
52:31: >> It's like a diddy party for nerds.
52:33: >> Exactly. Exactly.
52:34: >> And a lot of people went to those
52:36: parties.
52:36: >> Yeah. I don't want to say Assan Amad's
52:38: joke, but he's got I don't want to say
52:40: joke. I don't want to ruin his joke.
52:42: Shout outs, man.
52:42: >> Assan's great. He's got a great joke
52:45: that compares it to to Diddy.
52:46: >> He's filming a special soon, too.
52:48: >> Yes, he is. I'm very excited for that.
52:49: Yes, he is. this weekend.
52:50: >> Oh, really? So, this coming up,
52:52: >> this upcoming weekend at the Mothership.
52:54: No, it's at the Black Rabbit.
52:56: >> Black Rabbit. So, make sure you guys go
52:57: check that out.
52:58: >> He is great. And he that guy works hard.
53:00: I've known him since he was a door man
53:02: at the comedy store.
53:03: >> Yeah.
53:03: >> Yeah. Him and Derek do the the solid
53:05: show together.
53:06: >> Yep. So, I got to know Assan.
53:08: >> No, Assan's great, man.
53:09: >> They have a great pod, man.
53:10: >> Super smart dude, too. Very interesting
53:12: guy. Great green room hang.
53:14: >> That's Yep. That's the other thing. It's
53:16: like uh
53:18: just being able to hang. Just being able
53:21: to [ __ ] hang is like people think
53:23: about like, oh, what are all these
53:24: competitive advantages? How do you do
53:26: this, that, the other? It's just like,
53:27: can you [ __ ] hang out?
53:28: >> Can you sit down on a couch and can we
53:30: bust balls?
53:31: >> Are we fun?
53:32: >> It's that easy.
53:33: >> Yeah. Are you fun? Are you easy? Do you
53:34: are you a happy person? Are you good to
53:36: get along with?
53:37: >> Yeah.
53:37: >> That makes it so easy. Yeah.
53:39: >> It's like It's like simple things that
53:41: you learn in high school.
53:44: Yo, there's Have you had any experience
53:46: where like there's a guy who's a fun
53:47: hang and you haven't seen him on stage
53:48: yet and you're like, I hope he's funny.
53:49: >> Yes.
53:50: >> Cuz I like hanging with you.
53:52: >> Oh, there's some bad examples of that at
53:54: the comedy store where I saw someone
53:55: set. I was like, oh no,
53:57: >> I can't be friends with you. Like, this
53:59: is too Fitz Simmons and I were laughing
54:00: about that once. We saw this person go
54:03: on stage and then afterwards we went
54:05: into the back parking lot and Greg's
54:07: like, "Well, I can't be friends with
54:08: them anymore."
54:10: >> Greg cracks me the [ __ ] up, dude. Greg,
54:12: is Greg from Boston? He's a Boston guy,
54:14: right?
54:15: >> We started out together like within a
54:17: week of each other.
54:18: >> Yeah, it's all
54:18: >> I've been friends with that dude for
54:19: like 35 [ __ ] years, maybe more.
54:22: >> Yeah, Greg is Greg's still in LA, right?
54:25: >> Yes. Unfortunately,
54:26: >> dude. Greg was there when I [ __ ] I
54:28: did some like
54:30: I did some it was like a halfway house
54:32: show or something like that. I don't
54:33: know. I was just at the store and they
54:35: and they just asked me like, "Do you
54:36: want to pop on this one?" And it was
54:37: like
54:39: Greg was Joey. And I was like, "Yeah,
54:41: sure. I'll go do it. And I did it. And I
54:42: was doing these like um
54:44: >> I did some Down syndrome. It was kind of
54:46: like long to be honest with you.
54:48: >> Oh, that was the Down Syndrome group.
54:51: >> I had no clue cuz they told me half
54:52: house. So I was like, "Oh, it's guys who
54:54: are like drug addicts, alcoholics." And
54:56: I did like a long bit about it and it
54:58: didn't grow great.
55:00: >> Like everything was kind of good up
55:01: until that moment and then it kind of
55:03: went south and I was like, "Oh, that was
55:04: weird." And I and I get on stage and
55:06: Joey's like waiting there or Greg, I
55:07: forget which way. They're like, "What
55:09: the hell are you doing?" And I was like,
55:10: "I don't know." Like I thought it was
55:11: going well and then it just kind of
55:12: tanked. It's like
55:13: >> Yeah, cuz it's all of them. They're out
55:15: there. This is like a charity show or a
55:18: benefit for it. It's like you got to let
55:19: me know that.
55:20: >> Yeah, you should let people know that. I
55:22: I had a very similar thing happen. I had
55:24: a bit about how like there's certain
55:26: words that are offensive, but wouldn't
55:28: it be better if instead of like banning
55:30: these words, if like the government
55:32: issued like [ __ ] tags, like hunting
55:34: tags? Like you get five a year. He just
55:38: he's got to know when to use them, you
55:41: know. And these people were just This is
55:45: fascism. Government quotas.
55:47: >> It wasn't even But I would be like, you
55:50: do not want to go outside on December
55:51: 31st when all the [ __ ] tags are going
55:54: cuz everybody's got three extra [ __ ]
55:57: tags they got to use.
55:58: >> We're going to use them.
55:59: >> Can't let these things go away. They
56:00: don't roll over.
56:01: >> But I did it there and people like I was
56:03: like what?
56:04: >> Yeah.
56:04: >> What's wrong? And then afterwards they
56:06: told me I was like how about a heads up?
56:08: >> Wait, you did it also at How many of
56:10: these benefits they doing store?
56:12: >> A ton. It takes a lot of money.
56:14: >> Fair enough.
56:14: >> You know.
56:15: >> Yeah.
56:16: >> It's uh an education thing, but uh I
56:19: [ __ ] up too. Same thing. And then I
56:20: was like, "Oh, why didn't you tell me?"
56:22: >> I felt something in the I felt it,
56:24: >> bro. I felt it. It was like it just went
56:27: and the look was like, "Does he not
56:29: know?"
56:30: >> I think they thought that I didn't. They
56:31: didn't. I don't think they thought I was
56:32: being edgy. They thought you didn't
56:34: know.
56:34: >> They're like, "Oh, he doesn't know."
56:36: >> Right. Right. Right. You know, and so
56:37: they're like they have a sour like, "Oh
56:39: no, he doesn't know."
56:40: >> It's like if somebody was talking to
56:41: someone in the crowd before and
56:42: everybody knows about that person and
56:44: then you're doing something completely
56:45: unrelated and they're like, "Oh yeah, he
56:48: doesn't know that like she just lost her
56:49: husband."
56:50: >> Yeah.
56:51: >> I'm just doing my five minute widow bit.
56:53: >> Oh
56:54: >> yeah.
56:56: >> Yeah. But that's the fun stuff.
56:57: >> Yeah.
56:58: >> That's what that's what Charlemagne
56:59: loves. He's just so he's like at his
57:01: core he's like a real like comedian at
57:03: his core. Like to the point like he
57:05: he'll love bombing. He like walks
57:07: watching people bomb. He like really
57:08: likes that. He think it's I think it's
57:10: like a full emotion to him. And uh so at
57:13: the end of the the show in rehab, we
57:14: brought Alex Media was on the show and
57:16: he had to do one joke in front of
57:17: everybody and like the joke was pretty
57:20: good. Alex is a black dude and he's
57:21: like, you know, it's cool to be here.
57:22: You know, I'll be honest. like I see
57:24: these outfits and uh it's the only time
57:26: I'm surrounded by guys in uh in white
57:28: sheets that I don't feel like they're
57:30: going to kill me or something like that.
57:31: Like some little cutesy joke. And then
57:33: Charlemagne goes,
57:34: >> "Nah, bro. Like they're treating you
57:36: like the autistic kid that gets it going
57:37: in the fourth quarter.
57:42: The ball boy." That joke wasn't it, bro.
57:44: He's like, "Uh uh uh. They think that
57:47: you have autism and they're giving you a
57:48: shot at the end of the season."
57:50: >> Uh that's funny. That's funny. Yeah,
57:54: he's a funny dude. There's a lot of
57:55: funny people that don't get into comedy.
57:57: It's interesting. I've known quite a few
57:59: that are like, "Man, you're really a
58:00: comedian." And you never really got
58:02: after it.
58:03: >> You know, there's a bunch of people like
58:04: that. I used to work for a guy was a
58:06: private investigator. Was the funniest
58:08: [ __ ] dude I had ever been around in
58:10: my life. And I was trying to be a
58:11: comedian at the time. I was an open
58:12: micer. I was 21. And uh his name was
58:16: Dick Dolan. Dave Dolan, rather. He call
58:18: he call himself Dynamite [ __ ] Dave
58:20: Dolan. That was his name. He's whenever
58:22: I have a me I have a phone that I kept
58:25: it's uh an iPhone like 10 or some [ __ ]
58:29: like that and I kept that phone just
58:31: because I have a voicemail on there from
58:32: him before he died.
58:33: >> Yeah.
58:33: >> He's like Joe Rogan. It's Dynamite
58:36: [ __ ] Dave Dolan. How you doing
58:38: buddy?
58:39: >> And like he was just a funny [ __ ]
58:42: dude. He was hilarious. And I would uh
58:44: we would catch mostly people that were
58:46: doing insurance fraud.
58:48: >> Oh. As a
58:48: >> he was a private investigator. And I I I
58:50: worked for him and the way I worked for
58:52: a
58:52: >> PI.
58:53: >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I was uh looking
58:55: for a job and uh different things to do
58:58: to make money while I was doing standup.
58:59: And uh he had this ad for it was a
59:03: private investigator investigator's
59:06: assistant. I was like, "Ooh, that sounds
59:08: exciting." Really, what it was is he had
59:10: lost his license drunk driving and he
59:12: needed someone to drive his car around
59:15: cuz he still had to work. And so I met
59:18: him and he was f or his cousin was Bill
59:22: DS who owned the comedy connection. So
59:26: he was rel like we just we hit no it was
59:28: in Boston at the time. Oh
59:30: >> and then it eventually went to Faniel
59:32: Hall and then now it's the Wilbur
59:33: Theater. But that was Bill Bloom and
59:35: Wright eventually bought it from them.
59:37: But Bill Bill DS and Paul Barkley were
59:40: the original owners of the Comedy
59:42: Connection. And so I I and I was like,
59:45: "How are you not a comedian?" Like,
59:47: "You're the funniest [ __ ] guy I
59:49: know."
59:50: >> He was He's not interested.
59:52: >> He was just funny. But he would like we
59:55: would like catch people doing stuff.
59:57: Most of it was like insurance fraud, but
59:58: we'd have to like wait for them in front
00:00: of their house at like 4:00 in the
00:02: morning for them to get up and have like
00:03: a fake job where they were like
00:05: pretending to be disabled. I've hurt my
00:08: back at work, but really they were
00:09: roofing somewhere. And we would catch
00:10: them,
00:11: >> right? And and so we would be just in
00:13: the car, just me and him, and we were
00:14: just talking [ __ ] And he was I would be
00:16: crying. And I I remember I was dating
00:19: this girl and I I went over her place
00:20: afterwards. I was like, "This guy is so
00:22: much funnier than me, and he has no
00:24: desire to be a comedian."
00:26: >> It's it's like it's weird. Like he's a a
00:29: natural comic,
00:30: >> just
00:30: >> just funny all the time,
00:33: >> you know? Had this I don't give a [ __ ]
00:34: I'm never getting married. You know, he
00:36: like always cheated on his girlfriends.
00:38: Didn't care. He let them know like
00:42: >> he's like, "I'm not
00:45: >> He acted like a drunk even when he was
00:46: sober."
00:47: >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:47: >> Even when he was sober, he was like, he
00:49: kept that whole we're on a bender
00:52: mentality. He just was sober and rode
00:55: that [ __ ] right into the rocks. Rode
00:56: that [ __ ] boat right into the shore.
00:58: >> God bless him.
00:59: >> And then died. God bless him.
01:00: >> Yeah. He He was a fun dude, man. Like
01:03: one of the most fun people I've ever
01:05: been friends with in my life. Some of
01:06: the most naturally funny people I think
01:08: aren't comedians.
01:10: >> Yes. A lot.
01:11: >> In the hang. And it's a different like
01:13: when you got to do it on stage, there's
01:14: different expectations and it changes
01:15: thing. But like just in the hang. Yeah.
01:17: They're just they're almost like unaware
01:18: they're funny,
01:19: >> right?
01:19: >> They're not even trying to make you
01:21: laugh,
01:21: >> right?
01:21: >> You know, it's just kind of Yeah. It's
01:23: like an effortless to them.
01:24: >> And some of them, you know, that do try
01:27: to do comedy like that never figure out
01:29: how to translate it, which is really
01:31: weird. I think I think it's a it's
01:33: almost too easy for them in
01:35: conversation, so they don't do the work
01:38: to transition it to stage
01:40: >> or they have this idea of what they're
01:42: supposed to be on stage and it's very
01:44: different than what they are when
01:45: they're with their friends.
01:46: >> That's the first thing I tell like young
01:47: comics that ask for advice. I just go,
01:48: "How are you funniest around the people
01:50: you're most comfortable with?"
01:52: >> Like, are you telling stories? Are you
01:53: self-deprecating? Are you kind of
01:54: roasting? Like the people you're most
01:57: comfortable with, how are you funny? And
02:01: that I think is like the easiest way to
02:03: access like your voice or whatever we
02:05: call it and then just add 10 years of
02:07: trying to figure that out.
02:08: >> Yeah.
02:09: >> But like you're right, some people like
02:10: try to put on a cadence of what they
02:12: think a stand will talk about. And it's
02:14: normal in the beginning like you're just
02:15: trying to figure this [ __ ] out. You
02:16: sound like a
02:17: >> Exactly. Like in New York everybody
02:18: sound like a tell. Like when I was
02:20: coming up a tell was
02:21: >> even the way that they would do act out
02:23: sounds. It was all versions of a tell.
02:24: And like naturally you're going to
02:25: gravitate to the best guy and what he's
02:28: doing. And I'm sure like in LA everybody
02:29: was trying to be Dne or something like
02:31: that, right?
02:31: >> A bunch of guys are trying to be
02:32: Chappelle.
02:33: >> Chappelle. Yeah. And it's like,
02:35: >> yeah, that that makes sense.
02:36: >> Patrice would say that you were his
02:38: babies.
02:39: >> He's got a I got a bunch of babies out
02:40: there.
02:41: >> Oh, I mean I was a baby of Patrice for
02:42: sure. Like I remember seeing him and
02:44: just going like, "Oh my god, this is
02:46: this is the highest form."
02:47: >> Joey Diaz was the best example of a guy
02:49: who one day figured it out. Joey Diaz
02:52: was the funniest guy in the parking lot.
02:54: The funniest. The funniest guy in the
02:56: hang. If you were in the back bar, he
02:58: was the funniest. He was holding court.
03:00: Everybody was dying. We're falling on
03:02: the ground laughing. Yeah.
03:03: >> When he would get on stage, he would try
03:05: to be a comedian. Yeah. He would try to
03:07: like set up punchline, tell a joke. I
03:09: got a little joke for you. And And then
03:12: one day, he gave up. He gave up on being
03:15: cast in movies. He gave up on the dream
03:17: of having a sitcom. And he got real fat.
03:19: >> Like when I first met Joey, he was built
03:21: like a linebacker. He was a tank. And
03:23: he's fresh out of jail. You know, it was
03:25: a different Joe.
03:26: Scary Joey and Scary Joey uh gave in to
03:30: Fat Joey and then uh Mity Shar call him
03:33: Fat Baby and that's all she would put
03:36: him on as the on the the lineup. It
03:38: wouldn't be Joey Diaz, it would be Fat
03:40: Baby. She wanted to call him Fat Baby.
03:42: >> Oh, so he would lean into this.
03:44: >> She had this idea of changing his name
03:46: to Fat Baby. Yeah.
03:47: >> You know, she named people, right? She
03:49: named Carlos Mensia.
03:51: >> What do you mean?
03:52: >> She came up with that name.
03:53: >> That's not his real name.
03:54: >> No, it's not his real name. name is Ned.
03:55: It's like Ned wholeness or something
03:57: like that. She came up with the idea of
03:59: him having that name. Yeah. That was
04:02: part of the whole video of me like
04:04: exposing him. I was like, "You're not
04:05: even Mexican." And and the Mexicans in
04:07: the crowd were like, "What?"
04:08: >> Yeah.
04:09: >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's he's close.
04:11: >> Honduran.
04:12: >> Yeah.
04:12: >> Yeah. Half German, half Honduran. But
04:14: whatever it is,
04:14: >> bus stop.
04:15: >> The thing is Mity named him. And so
04:17: Mitsy would name people and she wanted
04:19: to name Joey Fat Baby. And so the old
04:23: lineups I got some old lineups from the
04:24: comedy store and one of them it says fat
04:26: baby.
04:27: >> I love it.
04:28: >> I love it.
04:28: >> But when he got fat, dude. Yeah. He when
04:31: he started not giving a [ __ ] and he
04:33: would go on stage all the I mean all of
04:36: a sudden he went from
04:38: >> not having good sets, you know, to kind
04:40: of maybe it was a pretty good set to
04:42: destroying
04:43: >> liberating. Destroy. He was free.
04:45: >> Yeah.
04:46: >> He got free and he became the guy on
04:48: stage that he was in the back. It was
04:50: also around the time where marijuana
04:54: medical marijuana started like really
04:56: popping off in LA. So Joey was on like
04:59: 500 milligram Chibba juice all day.
05:00: >> Let it go.
05:01: >> Just obliterated.
05:04: >> Obliterated and and dosing people on his
05:07: podcast and
05:09: laughing. He was just a fullon maniac
05:13: and the absolute best guy to take on the
05:16: road with you. There was no one better.
05:18: You take them on the road with you. You
05:19: guarantee you were having a party
05:21: everywhere you go. It's a party at
05:22: dinner. It's a party hanging out at the
05:24: hotel afterwards. It's a party. Joey
05:27: Diaz is there. We're having fun.
05:29: >> And you know, and you just figured out
05:31: how to be that guy on stage. And then he
05:33: became Joey Diaz. But it was like
05:35: everybody watched it happen like whoa. I
05:37: never seen anybody just figure it out
05:39: like that where like you went from being
05:41: uh a four or a five to a 10
05:44: >> immediately
05:45: >> and to a 10 to where people are lining
05:47: up in the back of the room going what
05:48: the [ __ ] man holy [ __ ]
05:52: >> did something happen like did something
05:54: happen culturally where what he was
05:56: doing was refreshing too or do you
05:58: really think he just changed?
06:00: >> He figured it out. He just fig he just
06:02: didn't He stopped I stopped giving a
06:04: [ __ ]
06:04: >> Yeah. I stopped giving a [ __ ] about
06:06: those [ __ ] people.
06:07: >> I was worried about those people. You're
06:08: going to give me a job. I want I want a
06:10: job. I was a [ __ ] convict. I had to
06:12: be careful,
06:13: >> you know. And then all of a sudden he's
06:15: like, "These people ain't giving me
06:16: [ __ ] [ __ ] these people."
06:17: >> Yeah.
06:17: >> You know, and then was like right around
06:19: the time, ironically, that he did The
06:20: Longest Yard.
06:21: >> So he got started getting movies,
06:23: started getting all kinds of things.
06:24: That's what happens.
06:25: >> Cuz he didn't give a [ __ ] anymore. And
06:26: all of a sudden, he was just so funny
06:28: that he was undeniable.
06:29: >> And then when you're undeniable, all
06:30: those opportunities pop up.
06:32: >> That's the other thing. It's like I
06:33: think there's I sometimes I hear comics
06:36: talk about like the importance of
06:37: networking
06:38: >> and I'm like it's so easy to network
06:40: when you're funny.
06:42: >> Yeah.
06:42: >> Like once you're funny, people want to
06:44: talk to you. Like once they admire what
06:46: you're doing on that stage, they want to
06:48: hang out. The people that are not funny
06:49: now you got to [ __ ] hang out every
06:51: single second and network and [ __ ]
06:53: >> But the worst is the networking people
06:55: that aren't funny that are always trying
06:56: to get work and you're like, "Hey, if I
06:58: wanted to give you work, I would ask."
07:01: Yeah. Yeah. Like you're you're doing the
07:03: wrong kind of work. You're doing the
07:04: network work and not doing the why am I
07:06: not funny enough work. Yeah.
07:07: >> What's missing? Why why do I not have an
07:09: audience? Like why why do people not
07:11: want to go see me again? Like what is
07:13: that?
07:14: >> Yeah.
07:14: >> I mean Yeah. It's they will see you
07:16: again if you give them a good show.
07:18: >> If you give them a good show, but if you
07:19: don't, it's like there's a lot of comedy
07:21: out there, kids.
07:22: >> There is a lot of comedy out there.
07:23: >> A lot of comedy out there.
07:24: >> Yeah. I don't know. That's why like I I
07:28: I'm like kind of strict on you just got
07:30: to give them something new every time
07:31: you go in. Like I feel strongly about it
07:33: because it's like if they see the same
07:35: thing twice
07:37: >> and I'm talking about when I'm going out
07:38: on a tour
07:38: >> to a new Yeah. to a new market or a
07:40: market that you've been to. Yeah. Very
07:42: important.
07:42: >> It's expensive.
07:43: >> Yeah.
07:43: >> Like [ __ ] is it's it's not cheap to go
07:46: out to a show, right?
07:47: >> Like so if they're getting a babysitter,
07:48: they're doing the whole thing and then
07:49: they see the thing they saw before, it's
07:51: like maybe they have a good time, but
07:52: there's a little part of them they feel
07:53: maybe taken advantage of in some way.
07:54: Well, some of them they'll want to see
07:56: bits again. Like that's like the Hot
07:58: Pockets thing with Gaffigan,
07:59: >> but I feel like they want to see that
08:02: >> and a bunch of other stuff.
08:03: >> Yes. Like if you giving them 45 of just
08:05: new heat that they haven't heard before,
08:07: and then at the end
08:07: >> you tell the machine story.
08:09: >> They love it. Yeah.
08:09: >> And then you get to live in the
08:11: nostalgia of it. You get to take your
08:12: friend that you told this story to or
08:14: this joke, it's so funny. I hope he does
08:16: it. And then you get to watch them
08:17: experience it.
08:18: >> It's like sharing a clip with them on
08:20: Instagram and just watching them laugh,
08:21: right?
08:22: >> So you get to experience that. like the
08:23: whole hour. No, you got to have
08:25: something like we got to
08:28: >> we got to we got to get at least for me
08:29: I'm like that is that's why I take time
08:31: off. I'm like I
08:31: >> Well, that's the difference between
08:32: comedy and music, right?
08:34: >> That's why music is [ __ ]
08:36: >> music I don't want your new [ __ ]
08:38: >> Right. Stop with the new songs Rolling
08:39: Stones.
08:40: >> Imagine Oasis is doing a whole new
08:42: album.
08:44: >> You know what I mean? Like you could go
08:46: here's a new one but I need to hear the
08:49: hits.
08:49: >> Right.
08:50: >> And that Yeah. music just has so much
08:52: more like such a great shelf life.
08:54: >> Mhm.
08:55: >> It's just if a song is hot
08:56: >> Yeah. such a shelf life. They have cover
08:57: bands
08:58: >> and we want to watch them.
08:59: >> Yeah.
09:01: >> Yeah. I remember anytime in LA there was
09:04: a cover band for uh the [ __ ] was it?
09:09: It was some 80s cover band. I don't
09:10: know. They were just playing like all
09:11: these like fun little 80s hits and it
09:13: was a thing that it would like sell out.
09:14: Like people would go to one of these
09:16: venues and they go and they enjoy and
09:18: they dress up in stupid 80s [ __ ] It
09:19: became almost like uh what is that
09:21: music? What is that? Um
09:24: >> that movie that people would go see in
09:25: the East Village uh Rocky Horror Picture
09:28: Show. Remember that? Like you're almost
09:30: like part of the performance in a way.
09:32: Like you're leaning into this this uh
09:34: >> this this costumeization of what's
09:36: happening.
09:37: >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
09:38: >> Yeah. I mean I don't know. It's a
09:41: different art form obviously, but that's
09:43: the beautiful thing is like some
09:44: something could do go down today,
09:47: >> you know, and then you can go on stage
09:48: with it tonight
09:49: >> and everybody's like, "Oh [ __ ]
09:51: >> that's I actually I I almost like don't
09:54: like it when there's nothing to talk
09:55: about initially,
09:56: >> right?"
09:57: >> Like I would rather like the thing
09:58: >> a new thing
09:59: >> we talk about it for at least a minute
10:00: and then we're on the same page
10:02: >> because the first minute of com comedy
10:04: like it is an odd thing. I'm on a stage.
10:08: You're all sitting.
10:10: >> Yeah.
10:10: >> I'm gonna talk as if we're having a
10:12: conversation, but you're not really
10:14: allowed to talk.
10:15: >> Right.
10:16: >> A minute in, we forget that,
10:18: >> right?
10:18: >> You know, it's like you're watching Top
10:19: Gun or something and you're like, I'm
10:20: real. This is real and I'm in the movie.
10:22: >> But that first minute, but what's great
10:24: is when there is some sort of
10:26: controversy or some big news story and
10:27: like everybody's thinking about it,
10:29: they're going, "Is he going to talk
10:30: about it?" Like I'm sure anytime you
10:32: went through something and the first
10:34: time you hit the stage, you can feel
10:35: them. Yeah.
10:36: >> Like waiting for you to address it.
10:38: >> Yeah. That's to me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
10:40: that's the best. That's the best. Yeah.
10:42: That's the best. Well, that was Tony
10:43: after, you know, his cancellation. Like
10:46: he he went in hot and he his bits
10:48: tightened up, too, cuz he knew couldn't
10:50: have any fat in him because now people
10:52: want you. Yeah. They want you to fall in
10:54: your face.
10:55: >> Yeah.
10:55: >> I think that's a good I think that's
10:57: good to have.
10:57: >> Oh, yeah.
10:58: >> You shouldn't get comfy.
10:59: >> Oh, yeah. It's real good. You need some
11:01: haters.
11:01: >> Yeah. It's motivation.
11:02: >> Yeah. I'm going to make this show so
11:04: sharp that you're going to have to make
11:05: you're going to have to say something
11:06: else
11:06: >> or not or you know look stupid.
11:10: >> Yeah. But they're never going to not say
11:11: something but they'll be like oh but
11:13: it's this but it's that. But it's like
11:15: you're not going to talk about the thing
11:16: that we all care about.
11:17: >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
11:18: >> There one thing we all care about, bro.
11:20: Paddle.
11:24: >> You're so addicted. I saw your bag. I
11:27: was like, what's in the bag?
11:28: >> I'm going after I'm gonna play with your
11:29: boy after this.
11:30: >> Who you playing with? Woody Harelson is
11:32: like big Oh, yeah, he is. He's And uh so
11:35: we're going to go play. I think he's
11:36: like, you know, building a club out
11:38: here.
11:38: >> What's he building? A paddle club.
11:39: >> Yeah, I think where he's invested in one
11:41: of the clubs that's going out here.
11:43: >> Wow. That's amazing.
11:43: >> People get obsessed. It's like golf in
11:45: that way. Like people just get obsessed
11:46: with it.
11:47: >> Yeah.
11:47: >> Yeah.
11:48: >> You got to pick the things that you get
11:49: obsessed with though. You can't have too
11:51: many of those things.
11:51: >> I know. Because our wives won't allow
11:53: it.
11:53: >> Yeah. Also, life is just you only have
11:56: so much time. Unfortunately, my things
11:58: take a lot of time. Like the pool one
12:00: takes a lot of time.
12:01: >> Being in the forest.
12:03: >> Yeah, it takes a lot of time. Takes a
12:05: week.
12:05: >> Yeah. I love I love when I text you like
12:08: out of the blue and I just get a picture
12:09: of you in like a foxhole.
12:12: >> Just be like this [ __ ] sweaty grainy
12:14: picture.
12:14: >> Oh, I sent you a picture of me hunting
12:16: pigs.
12:16: >> Yeah. Yeah.
12:17: >> I was in a a ground blind.
12:18: >> That's it. Yeah. I'm in a ground blind
12:20: right now.
12:21: >> And you're still talking [ __ ]
12:23: >> Yeah. I had cell phone service.
12:26: >> Talking [ __ ] while I was waiting for
12:27: pigs to come out. Where was it?
12:29: >> That was in Texas.
12:30: >> It was in Texas.
12:30: >> Yeah, that was out here, man.
12:32: >> We need to get rid of them, right?
12:33: Aren't they like uh
12:34: >> Oh, yeah. They're a real problem. Um I
12:36: got a lease where me and a bunch of
12:38: buddies have a a lease on this big piece
12:40: of uh hunting land. Yeah.
12:41: >> And we go out there and you know, it's
12:44: you literally have to kill pigs and you
12:46: turn them into sausage and then I give
12:48: it to my boys. I bring it down to the
12:50: the mother ship. I I brought them
12:51: coolers of elk meat the other night and
12:53: everybody's like, "Grab an elk sausage,
12:55: bring it home." Send me pictures of them
12:56: cooking it. that clip of you and and
12:58: Burr when you gave Burr the elk meat. I
13:00: think it was on like a kill Tony at the
13:02: store or something the other day. You're
13:03: like, "Does it make you aggressive?" And
13:05: then Bur was like,
13:06: >> "No,
13:08: >> no, Joe.
13:12: You [ __ ]
13:14: You were so hyped for him to be like,
13:15: "Yes, yes."
13:16: >> Tony said it did.
13:17: >> I gave him some elk meat.
13:18: >> Yeah. And then he went on stage at the
13:19: [ __ ] Trump rally.
13:21: >> No, it was the other night. The other
13:23: night I gave him some and he's like,
13:24: "Dude, I ate it. I got all this energy.
13:26: I just felt it. It's like It's like a
13:29: wild I go. Yeah, exactly. Like you're
13:31: eating the essence of a wild forest
13:34: horse.
13:34: >> Yeah.
13:34: >> A forest horse that has swords growing
13:36: out of its head.
13:37: >> Yeah.
13:37: >> It's got spears growing out of its
13:39: [ __ ] head,
13:41: [Applause]
13:42: >> screaming in the woods.
13:43: >> That was the other That was the other
13:45: thing. When you did our pod, there was
13:47: like a compilation of the animal sounds
13:48: you make, which is the funniest [ __ ]
13:50: clip I've ever seen. Like you were g cuz
13:52: we got high
13:55: You came in hot like you had the
13:57: mushrooms rolling. We were smoking weed
13:59: and then you just started talking about
14:00: bears and all of us are just like open
14:03: mouth like these [ __ ] claws were the
14:06: wild world is like you should be in
14:08: touch with that. Everybody should be in
14:09: touch with that. People have a
14:10: ridiculous idea what the wild world is.
14:12: A buddy of mine sent me a video that his
14:14: buddy took of he's in Colorado and he's
14:18: driving down the street. I'll send it to
14:19: you Jamie. He's in Colorado driving down
14:22: the street and he sees a [ __ ]
14:25: mountain lion take out a deer right on
14:29: the side of the [ __ ] highway.
14:31: >> Yeah.
14:31: >> I'm going to send this to you Jamie
14:32: right now. This is like
14:34: >> I'm domesticated.
14:35: >> Any of these people that like mountain
14:36: lions are important. They're a part of
14:38: the ecosystem. Like these are wild
14:40: monsters that live in the Do you see the
14:42: one that I got in the lobby? Do you see
14:44: the mountain lion in the lobby? The big
14:45: stuffed mountain lion. But the one
14:47: you've always had the mountain lion is
14:49: new. actual mountain line. My friend
14:52: Adam Greenree shot it in Colorado.
14:54: >> Okay.
14:54: >> And it was
14:56: >> killing cows, like slaughtering cows on
14:59: this uh this ranch in in Colorado. Like
15:02: this. Look at this. This is the side of
15:03: Give me some volume on this. Listen to
15:05: this.
15:08: >> Look at this deer. This mountain lion's
15:10: got it by the neck.
15:13: >> Oh man.
15:18: Oh man. And he's trying to drag his wave
15:20: free.
15:22: >> Sounds like my dog.
15:25: >> He got out and then this dude helped him
15:27: with the horn.
15:29: Every now and then the good guys win.
15:32: Ain't that crazy? But that's on the side
15:34: of the road in Colorado. Like that could
15:36: be a hiker. 100%.
15:39: 100% that could be a hiker.
15:42: >> It's a little lady. Some small lady.
15:44: Some 100 pound lady that's walking
15:46: around. You know,
15:47: >> are they the good guys though? I've
15:50: thought about that.
15:50: >> The mountain lions?
15:51: >> No, the deer.
15:53: >> No,
15:54: >> like the prey. No,
15:55: >> they're food.
15:55: >> Yeah, but but it's like they've evolved
15:58: to escape these guys and that's why
16:00: they're still around,
16:01: >> right? So, they have a competitive
16:03: advantage over the predators or else
16:05: they just wouldn't exist.
16:06: >> No.
16:07: >> But I guess I guess what I'm trying to
16:08: say is like
16:10: >> they don't have an advantage. They're
16:11: just hard to kill.
16:12: >> Okay. They're hard to kill, but they've
16:13: evolved to be hard to kill.
16:14: >> But they get killed every day.
16:14: >> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. But like a lot
16:16: of times they're going for the weak,
16:17: they're going for the wounded or going
16:18: for the babies because if you go for
16:19: like the big dogs, it's going to be more
16:21: difficult. You're going to expend more
16:22: energy to kill them,
16:23: >> right?
16:24: >> But I look at the predators and I'm
16:26: like, they can't eat grass,
16:28: >> right?
16:28: >> Like they would love to eat grass. Grass
16:31: is an easier life.
16:32: >> It's everywhere.
16:33: >> Unfortunately, they have to go attack
16:36: these animals that have the swords
16:37: coming out of their head,
16:38: >> right?
16:39: >> So, there is a version where I look at
16:40: it, I'm like, who's really burdened
16:42: here? Yeah, but the deer don't have the
16:44: swords coming out of their head to fight
16:45: off mountain lions.
16:46: >> It's just a
16:47: >> They don't use them for mountain lions.
16:49: They use them to fight each other.
16:51: >> It's just a [ __ ] female.
16:52: >> Yeah, it's just a dominance thing so
16:54: they could show the females that they're
16:55: the dominant males. They they have the
16:57: biggest racks and they smash racks with
16:59: other deer.
17:00: >> But they don't use it at all as defense
17:01: against predators.
17:02: >> No, not really.
17:03: >> I mean, that's stupid.
17:04: >> They're not smart.
17:05: >> Yeah,
17:06: >> they're wary, but they're not
17:07: intelligent. They're not like clever.
17:09: >> Yeah.
17:10: >> You know, mountain lines are clever.
17:12: Wolves are really clever.
17:13: >> I don't [ __ ] with the wolves, man.
17:14: >> Wolves are really clever. They they have
17:17: some sort of psychic communication with
17:18: each other.
17:20: >> Oh, you you think that?
17:21: >> Yeah. They coordinate and they don't
17:23: know exactly how they do it, but they
17:24: figure out traps. Well, like one wolf
17:27: will come in and they'll have other
17:28: wolves flank the animals. So, the
17:30: animals start to scatter and the wolves
17:31: come in from the sides and get them.
17:33: Coyotes do the same thing.
17:34: >> And they'll hunt humans, too, right?
17:36: >> They used to. They used to a lot. I
17:38: mean, World War I, they actually had a
17:40: ceasefire between the Russians and the
17:41: Germans because the wolves were killing
17:43: so many people, they decided, "We have
17:44: to stop and kill wolves."
17:46: >> So, they they came together, took out
17:48: the wolves,
17:49: >> and then they just started killing.
17:50: >> Yeah. Because you got to realize they're
17:51: in trench warfare, right? So, people get
17:52: shot and they're they're bleeding and
17:54: the wolves smell the blood. So, the
17:55: wolves were they would hear guys getting
17:57: torn apart in the middle of the night by
17:58: wolves.
17:59: >> Christ,
17:59: >> the wolves had made it in their way into
18:01: the foxholes, were just ripping guys
18:03: apart.
18:05: Imagine
18:06: you're you're lying in a trench and you
18:08: hear that like a hundred yards away, a
18:11: guy getting eaten alive by wolves.
18:12: >> How much do you think people knew
18:15: about war during World War I?
18:18: >> Very little. Right. I mean, they knew
18:20: war existed, but there's no footage.
18:23: Yeah.
18:23: >> Right. There's no photographs. There's
18:25: there's just a concept. There's this
18:27: >> and they're just being fed like
18:28: propaganda constantly from, you know,
18:30: their own countries.
18:32: I just I like wonder what happens when
18:34: all those guys come home and they're
18:36: clearly traumatized,
18:38: but everybody else has just been
18:40: consuming the propaganda about just, oh,
18:42: look what these doing and they're
18:43: fighting for us and everything is
18:44: amazing and we're winning the war and
18:45: all this positivity that's probably
18:47: emanating through news and then these
18:48: guys come home and they start sharing
18:50: like the actual stories,
18:51: >> right?
18:52: >> Like
18:53: >> well they just come back shell shocked
18:55: like you ever see Peiquey Blinders that
18:56: show.
18:57: >> Yeah, I watched a couple season when I
18:58: think Cormick McCarthy was directing.
19:00: No, no. Am I getting that name right? I
19:03: might be messing up. But yeah,
19:04: >> McCarthy is the author, right?
19:05: >> Oh, no. So, I'm thinking of a different
19:06: guy. Yeah. Did he do Angela's Ashes? Is
19:08: that
19:09: >> Cormic McCarthy? There's the craziest um
19:12: >> Who's the guy who directed
19:13: >> the craziest uh headline of all time is
19:16: connected to Cormick McCarthy. I'm going
19:18: send Jamie this.
19:22: Look at this headline. This is an
19:23: article from The Atlantic. This might be
19:25: literally the craziest headline that
19:28: anyone has ever put in an article
19:29: before.
19:31: You don't have to pull it up. It's just
19:32: It's just a headline of an article.
19:37: >> Cormick McCarthy's ex-wife pulled a gun
19:39: out of her vagina during an argument
19:40: about aliens.
19:45: >> Little 38.
19:47: >> Probably a 22.
19:48: >> Yeah, we need to know
19:52: what
19:52: >> I need to know what he said about
19:53: aliens.
19:55: >> It was probably a little daringer. One
19:57: of them little twoshot little tiny
19:59: pistols you could stick in your cooter.
20:01: >> To have a gun in your [ __ ] is
20:03: >> what?
20:05: Just they were having an argument about
20:07: aliens. She's like I'm not hearing
20:09: anymore.
20:13: >> Why was it
20:13: >> enough [ __ ]
20:15: >> But why was it in there?
20:16: >> Cuz they're drunk as [ __ ] They're
20:17: probably having a good time. Most
20:19: writers I think like especially oldtimey
20:22: writers Hemingway was a big drunk. I
20:24: think those people part like Hunter S.
20:26: Thompson, craziest of all. I think those
20:29: people party Stephen King when he was in
20:30: his prime, cocaine, alcohol, all those
20:33: people that wrote great [ __ ] they were
20:34: all out of their [ __ ] head.
20:37: >> Crazier than two, though. She went,
20:40: >> "Dude, the exchange." McCarthy went into
20:42: her bedroom and emerged wearing
20:43: lingerie. Her boyfriend probably
20:45: thought, "Oh, great. Reconciliation sex
20:47: time. Sorry for being skeptical of your
20:49: out-of- body experience, hun." until
20:51: McCarthy pulled out Swift and Wesson out
20:53: of her vagina and proceeded to have
20:55: intercourse with the gun. I don't know
20:58: why. Intercourse. Uh asking her
21:00: boyfriend, "Who's crazy, you or me?"
21:03: >> Um
21:03: >> so she's [ __ ] herself with the gun.
21:05: >> Yeah. Okay.
21:08: >> My kind of gal.
21:11: >> Yeah. What? Who's crazy? You or me? Why
21:15: you have a gun in your [ __ ] Um
21:17: >> you got it. You got it. M. So she was
21:20: she was telling him about having some
21:23: sort of an alien abduction experience
21:25: and he didn't want to believe and he
21:26: thought she was crazy. So she's like,
21:28: "I'll show you."
21:31: >> Yeah. You win. You win. I think you you
21:33: win. You got abducted.
21:35: >> Yeah.
21:36: >> I'm not arguing,
21:37: >> bro. She might have. Yeah,
21:38: >> she might have. Man,
21:40: >> I mean, imagine you get abducted by
21:42: aliens and you have to tell people and
21:43: you're like a person who wants to be
21:45: taken seriously in all their walks of
21:47: life and you have to tell them that they
21:48: drain your sperm on a spaceship and
21:51: >> showed you hybrids.
21:52: >> That's why I kind of I like believe the
21:54: Lazar dude like when we went to dinner
21:57: >> Yeah.
21:57: >> He was he was like shell shocked a
22:00: little bit.
22:01: >> Like he was like reluctant.
22:02: >> Uhhuh.
22:03: >> Do you remember that?
22:04: >> Oh yeah. Oh, that's why I brought you. I
22:06: was like, I come come sit with me
22:08: because this the first time I'm hang
22:09: hang hang hang hang hang hang hang hang
22:09: hang hang hang hang hang hang hang hang
22:09: hang hang hang hang hang hang hang hang
22:09: hang hang hang hang hang hang hang hang
22:09: hang hang hang hang hang hang hang hang
22:09: hang hang hang hanging with this guy
22:10: like I think you and me together would
22:11: be a fun combination to sit down talk to
22:13: Bob Lazar
22:14: >> and
22:16: it was just like he it was almost like
22:18: he didn't want to share it in a lot of
22:20: ways
22:20: >> and imagine people think you're a kook
22:24: for 40 years
22:26: >> for 40 years people have been thinking
22:27: you're out of your [ __ ] mind you're a
22:29: liar you make things up and then over
22:31: time all of a sudden footage starts
22:33: emerging and like 2017 of these crafts
22:36: doing exactly what you described, moving
22:38: in a way that's exactly like what you
22:41: were saying. And then there starts
22:43: getting these whistleblowers, these
22:45: David Grushes and Lou Alzando say, "We
22:47: have a crash retrieval program. We've
22:49: had it for a long time. The problem is
22:50: these defense contractors have access to
22:53: this stuff. They lied to Congress.
22:55: There's misappropriation of funds.
22:57: There's a lot attached to this and
22:58: that's why they're not releasing it."
23:00: >> Yeah.
23:00: >> Which is nuts if that's true.
23:03: >> Yeah. That's why I always say when
23:04: people ask me, they're like, I would
23:06: just be like, I believe he believes it.
23:08: >> Yeah.
23:08: >> I can't say what it is. Obviously, I'm
23:11: not there. I don't know anything. But
23:12: like I don't think he was a what are
23:15: they called? Like a charlatan or
23:16: whatever that word is. Like I don't
23:17: think he's making this up for attention,
23:19: >> right? I believe he believes what he saw
23:23: >> and
23:24: >> something happened. He saw something and
23:26: he was a legitimate propulsions expert
23:28: and he he really did work for Los Alamos
23:30: Labs, which is doing all sorts of wild
23:32: [ __ ] And then he really did work for
23:34: Area S4. Like somehow or another, he was
23:37: shipped over there to Area 51, site 4.
23:40: And he says they have UFOs. He said they
23:43: have like seven of them.
23:46: >> Good.
23:46: >> He said one of them is really old. He
23:49: said they said it was a part of an
23:50: archaeological dig.
23:53: Here's what's crazy about that. I have
23:54: this guy Ben Van Kirkwick. He um has
23:58: that YouTube page called uh Uncharted X
24:00: and he's um Yeah. Yeah, great guy.
24:03: >> Yeah,
24:03: >> they have found through the use of um
24:07: ground penetrating radar, they found
24:09: these labyrinths in Egypt that are
24:12: >> Yeah.
24:13: so [ __ ] huge and under underground
24:16: like deep underground but these massive
24:19: like corridors that lead into these
24:22: atriums like ma and they found a 40
24:26: meter long metallic object that's under
24:29: the ground
24:31: >> in Egypt 40 m long metallic some unknown
24:36: metal that's under the ground and it
24:38: doesn't whatever it is they know it's
24:40: metallic it doesn't have any sort of
24:41: signature that is reminiscent of any
24:44: other metal that we know about.
24:46: >> It was a specific It was a specific
24:48: historical site I think that they found
24:50: in Egypt.
24:50: >> Heroditus talked about it. It's
24:52: >> what was it called?
24:53: >> Um
24:53: >> I think it's called the Labyrinthus. I
24:55: think that's how it's referred. But
24:57: yeah, this is not like a like a figment
25:00: of people's imagination like this is
25:01: something
25:02: >> historically documented throughout time
25:03: for thousands of years and that Herodas
25:05: talked about it being greater than the
25:07: pyramids of Giza underground
25:10: and since so in 1960 um Ben was telling
25:13: us in the 60s they uh built a dam and
25:17: you know to help the farmers in the area
25:20: and unfortunately it raised the water
25:21: table and it [ __ ] it up and it flooded
25:23: these labyrinths because otherwise they
25:25: would have just been able to dig down
25:26: into it and enter in. And now it's all
25:29: filled with water.
25:30: >> Is it filled with water or sediment
25:31: because of the expansion of the water?
25:33: >> It's both. And there's sediment of
25:35: course that comes with the water, but
25:36: there's water, but then below the water
25:38: table is where the labyrinth. So he's
25:41: saying there might be a way that they
25:42: could tunnel from the side past where
25:45: the water comes in, but they don't want
25:46: to admit that it's real. Like all these
25:48: Egyptologists are kind of like freaked
25:50: out about it. Ozahi.
25:51: >> Yeah, I saw that.
25:53: >> Yeah. I don't know if that went the way
25:54: that he thought it was going to go. It
25:55: went the way I thought it was going to
25:56: go.
25:56: >> Yeah, I know. Gavin, pay attention.
26:00: >> You know what I mean? It's not going to
26:03: go as you see it going.
26:05: >> I'm really high on California.
26:06: >> Yeah.
26:07: >> I like how he's like trying to tweet as
26:09: Trump. Like, you don't even have your
26:11: own style. You're mocking his style to
26:14: try to tweet.
26:15: >> Trump is Trump is kinder than me, bro.
26:18: >> He's also making things up like
26:19: California derangement syndrome. Yeah.
26:22: >> No, it's like these are facts. People
26:24: are frustrated. People from out there
26:26: and they have the right to be
26:27: frustrated. Don't gaslight your own
26:28: people. I think that's up I think that's
26:30: upsetting. Like if I was from there and
26:32: I was upset with what was going on and I
26:34: complained about it and the guy who's in
26:35: charge says, "Oh, you're just deranged."
26:37: >> Yeah. Listen, you don't see a similar
26:39: uprising against Florida.
26:42: >> You don't.
26:43: >> Florida bmed economically during co
26:45: >> Yeah.
26:46: >> You know, a lot of people moved there.
26:47: Why? Because they had completely
26:49: different regulations and they allowed
26:50: people to be free. And now Dantis is
26:52: even talking about removing property
26:54: tax, which is a gamecher because that
26:57: really gross. I don't know. I don't
27:00: understand any of it.
27:00: >> Yeah, me neither. I don't [ __ ] know.
27:02: But like
27:03: >> that is tricky though.
27:04: >> Mhm.
27:05: >> The idea that like you buy a home and
27:07: then you continually have to pay the
27:08: government to own your own home.
27:09: >> How about even worse? What if you bought
27:11: a home a long time ago and you paid
27:13: $20,000 for it in like 1940 and now all
27:17: of a sudden it's worth2 million? So you
27:19: have taxes on 2 million. Oh, it's not
27:21: based on
27:22: >> different states have different rules.
27:23: >> Okay.
27:24: >> But in some states, you have to pay tax
27:25: on the amount of money your house is
27:27: worth.
27:28: >> Is the justification that like this is
27:29: what maintains the streets and this is
27:31: what maintains the community.
27:32: >> Well, the justification is like say if
27:34: you buy a $2 million home, you should be
27:36: contributing with your property taxes to
27:39: schools and all sorts of other things,
27:40: which totally makes sense. Yeah,
27:41: >> but the problem is like if you're 80
27:43: years old and you bought this house for
27:45: $20,000 and you're on social security
27:48: and now all of a sudden you owe money on
27:50: something you already bought to a a
27:52: government that does a terrible job of
27:54: using your money.
27:55: >> Yeah.
27:56: >> Terrible job. Documented terrible job of
27:59: spending your money.
28:01: >> Yeah.
28:02: >> Yeah. I just I don't know why he's
28:04: poking the I don't know why he's poking,
28:06: man. I don't know why he's poking. Also,
28:08: like, didn't Trump's kid pipe his wife
28:11: or whatever?
28:13: >> His ex.
28:14: >> Yeah.
28:16: >> Well,
28:16: >> I would have tweeted that.
28:20: >> Like, that's I'm more petty than these
28:22: [ __ ] that, you know what I
28:23: mean? You're not going to talk [ __ ]
28:24: about me and my voice and my kid piped
28:26: your wife.
28:29: >> That's coming out immediately. Why don't
28:31: you pull my kid's dick out of your wife?
28:33: That's my immediate tweet.
28:35: >> Yeah.
28:36: Interesting. It's interesting. I think I
28:39: think there is a pack.
28:40: >> I've never thought about it.
28:41: >> It is interesting.
28:42: >> It's interesting. Uh it's just it's just
28:44: interesting. It's just
28:45: >> I think Yeah, I think you ran short of
28:47: words, son. For a guy was really good at
28:49: talking. They brought up Apac. You
28:51: clammed up right quick
28:53: >> real fast. I just I never thought about
28:54: it.
28:55: >> Never.
28:55: >> I thought about JPEG, but not Apac. I
28:57: definitely thought about it.
28:58: >> Never thought about it. Never thought
28:59: about it.
28:59: >> All right. Well, interesting.
29:00: >> Now you can think.
29:01: >> Meanwhile, you just passed some sort of
29:03: a anti-semitism thing.
29:05: >> Oh, there's another
29:06: >> Yeah. What was the the anti-semitism
29:08: thing that they just uh pushed through?
29:10: >> No, wait a minute. Was it the one about
29:12: the schools that they then rebuked it?
29:14: >> Oh, I don't know. It was just something
29:15: someone was connecting it to. This is
29:17: why Gav It was a Twitter thing that I
29:18: was reading. Someone was saying, "Oh,
29:19: this is why Gavin Newsome didn't want to
29:21: say anything when they were talking
29:22: about Apac."
29:23: >> He wants it bad. Like you can tell he
29:25: wants it bad.
29:26: >> But uh it's almost like having less time
29:29: in government is beneficial to becoming
29:32: president
29:32: >> 100%. That's why I think if the
29:35: Democrats have somebody that's really
29:37: got a shot, it's that Terico guy, James
29:39: Tarico. I had him on my podcast.
29:42: >> I think he's legitimate. I think he's
29:45: the real deal. Like what what he says he
29:47: is is what he is.
29:48: >> Very religious person who has a really
29:50: good point when he talks about Texas
29:52: these very very wealthy billionaires
29:54: that are trying to turn the state into
29:55: theocracy and they want to uh that's why
29:57: they got the Ten Commandments pushed
29:59: into every school, all the public
30:00: schools here. He's like, "They want to
30:02: defund public schools and fund religious
30:04: schools." And he's like, "These people
30:05: are dangerous. This idea is dangerous."
30:07: And like the far right is just as
30:09: dangerous as the far left. And if you're
30:11: on the right and you don't recognize
30:12: this kind of
30:13: >> this kind of [ __ ] is and this is a
30:15: really religious guy
30:16: >> and that's where you trust it even more.
30:18: Someone that actually really believes in
30:19: it that's pushing back and goes this is
30:20: against like the values of our country.
30:22: Yes.
30:22: >> He might agree with all those things
30:24: that they're pushing but he's like I
30:25: don't think it should be like
30:26: governmentally enforced in schools. He's
30:28: very well-versed in the Bible and is
30:30: literally in seminary right now. Like
30:33: this is a guy that's very religious,
30:34: like legitimately religious and has been
30:36: his whole life.
30:37: >> But that's the thing. You need to shake
30:38: [ __ ] up and you especially need to shake
30:39: [ __ ] up with your own party. I mean,
30:40: that's what Trump did with Republicans.
30:42: That's what any candidate that ends up
30:43: winning does is you have to be like the
30:46: candidate of rebellion to a certain
30:47: extent. Like you've even seen what's
30:49: happened in New York right now. Like you
30:51: could hate every policy that Mumani has,
30:56: >> but you can't deny that he's at least
30:57: saying things that tap into the concerns
31:00: and frustrations of New Yorkers.
31:02: >> Right. You left those people out of the
31:03: conversation. Exactly.
31:04: >> And now the chickens have come home to
31:05: roost.
31:06: >> There it is. So it's like I will not at
31:07: all I'll I won't at all criticize him
31:11: for trying to fix problems that people
31:13: have when the other guys there are just
31:16: saying we're not going to do anything.
31:18: >> Yeah. I think it was a lot of times the
31:19: frustrations with the the last election.
31:21: It's just like people were frustrated
31:23: with Biden. They just didn't think that
31:24: he was all there. They didn't know who
31:25: was running the country and they didn't
31:26: like what was happening. And then she
31:27: came in and she wouldn't separate
31:28: herself at all. So that's on you. Like
31:30: you have to give people you have to give
31:32: people hope and often times hope is
31:35: being the candidate of rebellion and
31:37: that usually is what ends up winning.
31:38: >> Do you see that people ragging on her
31:40: conversation with Caris Wisher?
31:42: >> She was on stage with Caris Wisher and
31:44: she even Carris Wisher was kind of like
31:45: ragging on her a little bit. She was
31:47: like, uh, you know, uh, a lot of some
31:50: people said that I was the most
31:51: qualified person to ever run for
31:53: president. Like, who said that? And
31:56: Cara's like, some people said that?
31:57: Like, who said that? You are literally
31:59: running against a guy who was already
32:01: president. So, if you're if you're going
32:03: if you're going based on your resume,
32:06: you're not more qualified than Biden.
32:08: Biden was the vice president of the
32:11: United States for eight years. Best
32:12: thing for the Republican party right now
32:14: is her book tour because every time she
32:17: talks on camera, there's a reminder as
32:19: to why she lost. When she went away for
32:21: a while,
32:22: >> I think you could be like you could
32:24: pretend about what she was and what she
32:26: stood for. Yeah. But the second she does
32:28: an interview and she's like, "Yeah, I
32:29: couldn't have Pete be my vice president.
32:32: He's a gay."
32:34: >> And then Rachel M, what do you mean?
32:36: She's like, "No, I'm not exactly saying,
32:38: but he likes guys."
32:39: >> Yeah.
32:39: >> You're like, "What what is going on
32:40: right now?"
32:41: >> Right. It's too risky.
32:42: >> It's too risky.
32:43: >> Yeah. How dare you say Merry Christmas.
32:46: >> How dare you? She's It's like the same
32:49: thing, man. Did you see your Columbus
32:51: Day message to to America?
32:52: >> What was the Columbus Day?
32:53: >> Oh god. It was like don't forget the
32:55: horrors that the Europeans did to the
32:59: Okay. Jesus Christ. Did he even get
33:00: here?
33:01: >> Scolding.
33:02: >> Did he get here or not?
33:03: >> Columbus. No. No. Did not get here. No.
33:06: >> Keep that up with the Dominican Republic
33:07: or whatever. Like where he landed.
33:09: >> That's what I'm saying. It's like,
33:11: >> but it wasn't Columbus necess I mean the
33:13: idea is I think it's Indigenous People's
33:15: Day. I think it stopped being Columbus
33:16: Day after a while. Yeah.
33:17: >> And they call it Indigenous People's
33:19: Day,
33:20: >> which makes sense.
33:21: >> Yeah. I mean, like, shout out to them. I
33:23: think it's funny when governments do
33:25: these things to like uh enforce care.
33:28: Like anytime I'm performing in Canada,
33:29: like if it's on like an indigenous area,
33:31: they make me do like
33:33: >> land acknowledgement.
33:34: >> And I remember the first time they told
33:35: me, I was like, "You want me to do
33:37: what?" And they're like, "Yeah, we want
33:38: you to let them know that this used to
33:39: be native land." And I'm like, I
33:41: remember telling it to like the chief of
33:43: the tribe. And I'm like, "Brother, that
33:45: kind of seems like I'm bragging."
33:48: Like, I'm going up there and be like,
33:49: "Yo, this used to be yours, but the boys
33:51: came in.
33:54: Got y'all the [ __ ] out of here." Like,
33:55: you really want me to go and remind
33:57: everybody what happened before the
33:58: comedy show?
33:59: >> You know what my favorite part about
34:00: that is? It's a land acknowledgement,
34:02: but also saying, "We're not giving it
34:04: back."
34:04: >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We stole
34:06: it, but it's ours now.
34:07: >> So, what do we do? Who are we doing this
34:09: for?
34:09: >> Sorry. We're going to acknowledge the
34:12: fact that we're on stolen land. But the
34:13: thing the thing is these people that go
34:15: along with that are also the same people
34:17: that want no borders and uh no one's
34:20: illegal being anywhere. Like Christopher
34:22: Columbus is the only immigrant they
34:23: hate.
34:26: >> You know, that was there was
34:30: >> there's no borders. You know, no one's
34:32: illegal, but yet these people shouldn't
34:35: have been here.
34:35: >> We let a Spanish speaking guy into
34:37: America once. Went great.
34:45: >> Can't put that up.
34:47: >> Ended the Mayan Empire. They gave all
34:50: [ __ ] diseases.
34:51: >> Jesus Christ. Hilarious. Think about
34:54: what they did what Cortez did to Mexico.
34:56: I know.
34:57: >> Like my god.
34:59: >> I know. It's nuts.
35:01: Yeah. [ __ ] up [ __ ]
35:02: >> Yeah. It's like, yeah, human beings did
35:04: that, but also Yeah. bad. The diseases,
35:08: the slaughter. Also, what they did to
35:10: each other was horrible.
35:11: >> Yeah. I mean, human beings do [ __ ] up
35:13: [ __ ]
35:13: >> Yeah. We're here now. What are we going
35:16: to do now? That's my worry. Like, what
35:17: are we going to do now? It's like It's
35:19: like you going to the doctor, you got
35:20: lung cancer, and the doctor's like,
35:22: "Let's talk about all them cigarettes
35:23: you were smoking."
35:24: >> And it's like, "Why don't we talk about
35:26: all that chemo you going to get me?"
35:27: Like, tell me what we're going to do now
35:29: to get rid of this [ __ ]
35:30: >> right? Don't tell me about what I did. I
35:32: know what I did.
35:34: >> Yeah.
35:35: >> All right, brother. Oh, boy.
35:36: >> Go play some [ __ ] paddle.
35:38: >> This is fun.
35:39: >> You got to come.
35:39: >> This is I got to get you on a paddle.
35:41: >> I can't today. I got too much [ __ ] to
35:42: do.
35:42: >> All right, fine. One of these days I'm
35:43: getting
35:43: >> One of these days I'll go out there with
35:44: you
35:45: >> anyway. I love you, dog.
35:46: >> I love you, too, brother. Always good to
35:48: hang.
35:48: >> Always great to hang.
35:49: >> Yes, sir. Amen. Yes, sir. All right.
35:50: Bye, everybody. Peace.
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